Comments on: Life After Suboxone http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:15:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-41203 Jon Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:20:47 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-41203 Very informative and definitely emotionally lifting. Knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel makes doing this easier. Everyone has a different story but in the end it all comes down to the same thing ... Getting off this poison and getting your life back. So here is my story: I had a double s curve and a twisted spine. For most of my life it presented no problem. I jogged 4 miles 5 times a week for 20 years until things started heading south. My Dr. gave me perocet (50) that lasted me about 5 months and I went back to get more. A year later I was up to 100 pills a month. Six months after that I was up to 10 mg pure oxycodone a 4 x/day. In between all this I went for cortozone injections and kept that up until there was no room for a the needle to pentrate my L4-L5 vertebrae. I was increased to 20 mg oxycodone tabs. I tried to moderate the pain med's to the smallest amount I could stand. The pain was so intense sometimes I took out my S&W 500 magnum and seriously considered pulling the trigger. Six months later I was switched to 25mg Fentanyl patches. Six months later I was upped to 50 mg Fentanyl patches because the 25mg were not effective enough. Three months later is was switched to 75mg patches. Three months after that 100 mg patches. Three months after that even though I knew the pain was going to be unbearable I decided to get off the patches before they killed me or my girlfriend did in my sleep. Although the past three years seem like a blur I dam well knew that was not the case for those around me. I detoxed by myself in my condo with help of Clonidine and Xanax for 10 days. The up side of all that is I am no longer afraid going to hell ... been there, done that. I was probably about 50% detoxed and had the energy of a 95 year old that was just hit by a bus and was in so much pain I wanted to kill myself. I was then put on 30 mg oxycodone every 4 hours. Eventually it went to 60 mg every 4 hours and when I was awake it still hurt like hell. I felt that if somthing drastic was not done I would be dead in 12 months. After much research we uncovered a doctor in Tampa that specialized in my kind of problem. I have never met a Dr. like him. I underwent an 8 hour operation that kept me in the hospital for 7 days ... a 7 level spinal fusion procedure. I now have 16 rods and 18 titanium screws in my back AND no pain. The operation cost $250,000 but was covered by insurance. It wore a brace for 6 months and physical therapy for 6 months. My Dr. told me he would fix my back but he could fix my addiction to pain med's. He was right. I never abused pain med's. I feel that those people who truly need them do not abuse this medicine because they hate it ... but it makes no difference. The body gets just as addicted for legitimate reasons or drug abuse. Three months after the operation I tried to get off the pain med's. I had no pain, I hated the medication and I wanted my life back. I detoxed in my condo for 10 days with the help of Clonidne and Xanax. I was again about 50% detetoxed. I then went to see a Dr that dispenses Suboxone and he said because I was 50% detoxed I would be best served not getting started on Suboxone. Three days later I went for my once/3 month visit to my Dr that gives me my ADHD med's. He immediately put me on Soboxone ... 8 mg/day. I felt I was being overdosed. I felt itchy and actually high. I told him he insisted I keep to his program. Over the next 4 months is worked my way down to 2 mg/day. I tried to get off it and couldn't. Over the next 2 months I started splitting the 2 mg pill into 4 pieces and worked my way down to 1/2 mg/day. Over the next 6 months I tried to get off it and still couldn't. I was really getting pissed. Let's be honest here ... the drug company who makes Suboxone makes big bucks. If they wanted to get people off the drug they would have titrated the dose of 2 mg to much lower doses. That's when I started reading all the blogs. The handwriting was on the wall. I was going to have to detox again. I am now on day 9 and starting to feel better. It is 75 degrees outside now and I have the fireplace roaring ... wearing warm clothing and the heat is on. When people visit you under these circumstances you know you have some real friends out there. I know I will eventually be OK because of who I am and because of blogs like yours. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. Very informative and definitely emotionally lifting. Knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel makes doing this easier. Everyone has a different story but in the end it all comes down to the same thing … Getting off this poison and getting your life back. So here is my story: I had a double s curve and a twisted spine. For most of my life it presented no problem. I jogged 4 miles 5 times a week for 20 years until things started heading south. My Dr. gave me perocet (50) that lasted me about 5 months and I went back to get more. A year later I was up to 100 pills a month. Six months after that I was up to 10 mg pure oxycodone a 4 x/day. In between all this I went for cortozone injections and kept that up until there was no room for a the needle to pentrate my L4-L5 vertebrae. I was increased to 20 mg oxycodone tabs. I tried to moderate the pain med’s to the smallest amount I could stand. The pain was so intense sometimes I took out my S&W 500 magnum and seriously considered pulling the trigger. Six months later I was switched to 25mg Fentanyl patches. Six months later I was upped to 50 mg Fentanyl patches because the 25mg were not effective enough. Three months later is was switched to 75mg patches. Three months after that 100 mg patches. Three months after that even though I knew the pain was going to be unbearable I decided to get off the patches before they killed me or my girlfriend did in my sleep. Although the past three years seem like a blur I dam well knew that was not the case for those around me. I detoxed by myself in my condo with help of Clonidine and Xanax for 10 days. The up side of all that is I am no longer afraid going to hell … been there, done that. I was probably about 50% detoxed and had the energy of a 95 year old that was just hit by a bus and was in so much pain I wanted to kill myself. I was then put on 30 mg oxycodone every 4 hours. Eventually it went to 60 mg every 4 hours and when I was awake it still hurt like hell. I felt that if somthing drastic was not done I would be dead in 12 months. After much research we uncovered a doctor in Tampa that specialized in my kind of problem. I have never met a Dr. like him. I underwent an 8 hour operation that kept me in the hospital for 7 days … a 7 level spinal fusion procedure. I now have 16 rods and 18 titanium screws in my back AND no pain. The operation cost $250,000 but was covered by insurance. It wore a brace for 6 months and physical therapy for 6 months. My Dr. told me he would fix my back but he could fix my addiction to pain med’s. He was right. I never abused pain med’s. I feel that those people who truly need them do not abuse this medicine because they hate it … but it makes no difference. The body gets just as addicted for legitimate reasons or drug abuse. Three months after the operation I tried to get off the pain med’s. I had no pain, I hated the medication and I wanted my life back. I detoxed in my condo for 10 days with the help of Clonidne and Xanax. I was again about 50% detetoxed. I then went to see a Dr that dispenses Suboxone and he said because I was 50% detoxed I would be best served not getting started on Suboxone. Three days later I went for my once/3 month visit to my Dr that gives me my ADHD med’s. He immediately put me on Soboxone … 8 mg/day. I felt I was being overdosed. I felt itchy and actually high. I told him he insisted I keep to his program. Over the next 4 months is worked my way down to 2 mg/day. I tried to get off it and couldn’t. Over the next 2 months I started splitting the 2 mg pill into 4 pieces and worked my way down to 1/2 mg/day. Over the next 6 months I tried to get off it and still couldn’t. I was really getting pissed. Let’s be honest here … the drug company who makes Suboxone makes big bucks. If they wanted to get people off the drug they would have titrated the dose of 2 mg to much lower doses. That’s when I started reading all the blogs. The handwriting was on the wall. I was going to have to detox again. I am now on day 9 and starting to feel better. It is 75 degrees outside now and I have the fireplace roaring … wearing warm clothing and the heat is on. When people visit you under these circumstances you know you have some real friends out there. I know I will eventually be OK because of who I am and because of blogs like yours. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.

]]> By: Jenna http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-41202 Jenna Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:31:10 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-41202 first, let me start by saying I have been a heroin addict for 11+ years, so I know what full blown withdrawal feels like. I have been off heroin for about 4 months (this was only a short run & I have had years of clean time in the past). I have never been prescribed to suboxone but have used it many times to "kick the habit." anyway, for the last 2 months I have taken suboxones from anywhere from 2-3 times a week, and want to know if there is any chance I could experience withdrawals from not taking them? I believe it is mostly psychological, thinking I need to take "something" to feel normal since I have for so many years. can someone please help me & tell me if I will feel the withdrawals or if I am just crazy? thank you for letting me get that out! I wish all of you the best!!! first, let me start by saying I have been a heroin addict for 11+ years, so I know what full blown withdrawal feels like. I have been off heroin for about 4 months (this was only a short run & I have had years of clean time in the past). I have never been prescribed to suboxone but have used it many times to “kick the habit.” anyway, for the last 2 months I have taken suboxones from anywhere from 2-3 times a week, and want to know if there is any chance I could experience withdrawals from not taking them? I believe it is mostly psychological, thinking I need to take “something” to feel normal since I have for so many years. can someone please help me & tell me if I will feel the withdrawals or if I am just crazy? thank you for letting me get that out! I wish all of you the best!!!

]]> By: TJJ http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-41200 TJJ Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:47:12 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-41200 Hey Cesar ,have you jumped yet? Havent heard from ya latley,,,just wondering how yr getting along God Bless Hey Cesar ,have you jumped yet? Havent heard from ya latley,,,just wondering how yr getting along God Bless

]]> By: Mps http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-41109 Mps Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:03:04 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-41109 This message is for Vince. I'm almost too 3 months and Im having same burning in my feet,legs,back,arms and neck (down the sides) and terrible blurred vision. How do you feel now? I hope this subsides...feels like electricity running in my brain. I've got a new friend chest tightness...wish I would have just gone throguh the opiate hell then this prolonged craziness. This message is for Vince. I’m almost too 3 months and Im having same burning in my feet,legs,back,arms and neck (down the sides) and terrible blurred vision. How do you feel now? I hope this subsides…feels like electricity running in my brain. I’ve got a new friend chest tightness…wish I would have just gone throguh the opiate hell then this prolonged craziness.

]]> By: off one back to another http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40994 off one back to another Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:42:34 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40994 Hi, I am trying to get off Subs too....... It kinda makes me wish to GOD in heaven that I would have went through the hard opiate withdrawl for a week or so instead of this month to a month and a half shit..... Im in bad shape, so what did I do ??? Started back with percs, I feel so lost, so trapped, so in chains, 2moro is day 5 no subs, I am so afraid of where the percs will lead...... I wish for the days when I was a kid and I would get up every day to play, and be so happy and excited about it and so so free, maybe this is my depression or emotions talking but I just feel lost........ Does anyone have advice for me, when can I stop the percs, and stop feeling sub withdrawl, will I feel normal in 10 days from the sub withdrawl, because if someone knows that I will, then I will gladly take these percs and flush the SOBs and never ever touch another opiate again...... Or a Sub..... EVER EVER AGAIN, GOD HELP ALL THE LOST TRAPPED HELPLESS PEOPLE.... Hi, I am trying to get off Subs too……. It kinda makes me wish to GOD in heaven that I would have went through the hard opiate withdrawl for a week or so instead of this month to a month and a half shit….. Im in bad shape, so what did I do ??? Started back with percs, I feel so lost, so trapped, so in chains, 2moro is day 5 no subs, I am so afraid of where the percs will lead…… I wish for the days when I was a kid and I would get up every day to play, and be so happy and excited about it and so so free, maybe this is my depression or emotions talking but I just feel lost…….. Does anyone have advice for me, when can I stop the percs, and stop feeling sub withdrawl, will I feel normal in 10 days from the sub withdrawl, because if someone knows that I will, then I will gladly take these percs and flush the SOBs and never ever touch another opiate again…… Or a Sub….. EVER EVER AGAIN, GOD HELP ALL THE LOST TRAPPED HELPLESS PEOPLE….

]]> By: Paul @ 5 months http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40874 Paul @ 5 months Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:34:29 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40874 I have been free of Subs for 5 months and feel terrific! Suboxone is a very valuable tool for addiction, but I feel the withdrawal was not worth taking it for 4 years to manage my pain. While on the Subs, I also had to take Doxapin for peripheral neuropathy ( all my muscles ached), 8-500mg Tylenol, and prilosec for reflux daily. Since being clean of the Subs, I no longer need to take any medication and my pain is pretty much gone. After having a major accident 36 years ago, I thought I would never again be pain free. I AM and never think about hurting daily! Stay positive for those of you trying to quit. Looking back, the WDs's don't seem as bad as they were while experiencing them. You will get thru it, you will sleep normally, you will get your energy back, you will be happy, and you will get to live your life as you choose. Patience and perseverance and you will succeed! I have been free of Subs for 5 months and feel terrific! Suboxone is a very valuable tool for addiction, but I feel the withdrawal was not worth taking it for 4 years to manage my pain. While on the Subs, I also had to take Doxapin for peripheral neuropathy ( all my muscles ached), 8-500mg Tylenol, and prilosec for reflux daily. Since being clean of the Subs, I no longer need to take any medication and my pain is pretty much gone. After having a major accident 36 years ago, I thought I would never again be pain free. I AM and never think about hurting daily! Stay positive for those of you trying to quit. Looking back, the WDs’s don’t seem as bad as they were while experiencing them. You will get thru it, you will sleep normally, you will get your energy back, you will be happy, and you will get to live your life as you choose. Patience and perseverance and you will succeed!

]]> By: MIKE http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40867 MIKE Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:23:59 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40867 I just got out of detox 7 days ago. I was taking 1200mg of oxycodone daily. I'm getting so many conflicting stories about suboxone. One out patient program gave me the number of the only doctor in Vegas they trust to give suboxone. It's a 4 month wheen down. They told me statistic wise, with doing that much for so many years, The chances of relapse (outpatient or not) are very high unless I get on Suboxone. Any thought? I just got out of detox 7 days ago. I was taking 1200mg of oxycodone daily. I’m getting so many conflicting stories about suboxone. One out patient program gave me the number of the only doctor in Vegas they trust to give suboxone. It’s a 4 month wheen down. They told me statistic wise, with doing that much for so many years, The chances of relapse (outpatient or not) are very high unless I get on Suboxone. Any thought?

]]> By: Bobby http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40480 Bobby Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:23:48 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40480 I have been taking Suboxone for 3 years. Started 8mg./day. Eventually I began to abuse them taking up to 24mg/day.. I was on 24mg/day from approx. Sept.2010-July 2011. I cut myself back to 8mg./day again since July. This was due to the availability of getting the drug. Prior to taking suboxone I had a habit of 160mg/day of oxycontin. I found that trade off in addictions to be painless and way cheaper. I was introduced to suboxone by a dealer. And beleive me I dont really view doctor's any different than street dealer's. No offense but suboxone is a very powerful drug. And I view it like i did the old oxy's the snortable, very popular green oxy 80's. I see no reason that anyone should be perscribed these powerful drug's. Now....sure everything is hunky dory but, Iam in my forty's and I want to change my life completely. I want off of these suboxone. This post has literally scared the fuck out me. . I wake up in pain everyday. Not from sub's but from what I beleive is their side effect's of long use.. I dont want them anymore. I dont want to pay $500.00/month for them anymore. I want to heal my body from 8 years of drug abuse.. I have begun the great taper. Iam at 6mg/day right now for a few days then 5...then so on until dust....IS THEIR ANYWAY I CAN KEEP MY JOB????? OR IS SHIT GONNA HIT THE FAN. I cant keep destroying my body... I love my wife she will be there for me...But I cant lose my job....I think I need advice...I think I need help...Bobby. I have been taking Suboxone for 3 years. Started 8mg./day.
Eventually I began to abuse them taking up to 24mg/day..
I was on 24mg/day from approx. Sept.2010-July 2011. I cut myself back to 8mg./day again since July. This was due to the availability of getting the drug. Prior to taking suboxone I had a habit of 160mg/day of oxycontin. I found that trade off in addictions to be painless and way cheaper. I was introduced to suboxone by a dealer. And beleive me I dont really view doctor’s any different than street dealer’s. No offense but suboxone is a very powerful drug. And I view it like i did the old oxy’s the snortable, very popular green oxy 80′s. I see no reason that anyone should be perscribed these powerful drug’s. Now….sure everything is hunky dory but, Iam in my forty’s and I want to change my life completely. I want off of these suboxone. This post has literally scared the fuck out me. . I wake up in pain everyday. Not from sub’s but from what I beleive is their side effect’s of long use.. I dont want them anymore. I dont want to pay $500.00/month for them anymore. I want to heal my body from 8 years of drug abuse.. I have begun the great taper. Iam at 6mg/day right now for a few days then 5…then so on until dust….IS THEIR ANYWAY I CAN KEEP MY JOB????? OR IS SHIT GONNA HIT THE FAN. I cant keep destroying my body… I love my wife she will be there for me…But I cant lose my job….I think I need advice…I think I need help…Bobby.

]]> By: Greg http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40463 Greg Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:07:33 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40463 I have been on 1.5-2mg/day of suboxone for 3 years. In this time I went from doing nothing to being a Senior at Columbia University. I plan to tapper over the course of a month. Most of the comments here are from lazy people who don't want to do the work. If you are on suboxone, try running everyday for 3 month, then tell me if you have depression. If not running, lift. Suboxone is a tool, not the answer. I have been on 1.5-2mg/day of suboxone for 3 years. In this time I went from doing nothing to being a Senior at Columbia University. I plan to tapper over the course of a month.

Most of the comments here are from lazy people who don’t want to do the work. If you are on suboxone, try running everyday for 3 month, then tell me if you have depression. If not running, lift. Suboxone is a tool, not the answer.

]]> By: IDIDIT http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-3/#comment-40281 IDIDIT Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:26:49 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?p=144#comment-40281 I am so happy! I am so happy!

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