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		<title>By: wannabfree</title>
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		<dc:creator>wannabfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 05:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, my boyfriend, and my brother all have been on subs about 3 1/2 yrs.  My boyfriend and I met each other during our addiction and when we got together it went way down hill. We went from blues to heroin pretty quickly, not to mention he also received a very large settlement from getting hit by an 18 wheeler on the highway.  After the settlement we started shooting massive amounts of heroin and after getting as high as you possibly can it started to get old and to the point where we werent even getting those good rushes anymore so we decided to quit.  We went to separate houses so we wouldn&#039;t give in to each other and I lasted about 4 days (coming off xannax too) before I started hullucinating and delerious and decided to see a doctor for suboxone.  He didn&#039;t want to get addicted to another drug and suprisingly he lasted about 4 weeks until he relapsed because the withdrawls were still so horrible... then he decided to get on suboxone.  I honestly have no idea how either of us even made it past 24hrs.  My brother at about the same time got on suboxone as well.  3 1/2 yrs later my boyfriend and I are doing great in our sobriety but we&#039;re ready to move on with our lives... I&#039;m down to 6mg/day and he&#039;s at 4mg/day.  My brother on the other hand did not follow the program correctly and had some relapses in between, he&#039;s also taking aderol and seroquel, which was making him very all over the place and not acting normal.  We couldn&#039;t tell if he was getting high or if it was really just the meds making him that way.  He recently came out of his funk and decided he wanted to get off of everything but when he tried to taper (from 16mg/day) he had a really hard time.  My mom did some research and found this rapid detox place in michigan where they put you under for an hour and inject you with naltrexone (not to be confused with naloxone).  Well he just flew back home from there today and is still suffering some withdrawls (mainly anxiety withdrawls... not puking).  Now my Mom and the rest of the family wants me to go there, and put out $9000 for the treatment.  To me its silly though, to pay that much money that I&#039;ve worked very hard to save these past 3 years, and to still have to suffer withdrawls symptoms for up to 2 weeks, I mine as well just stay home and do it myself for free.  I guess the only advantage of the naltrexone is that it does heal your receptor sites, helps with cravings, and there is absolutely no withdrawl from it so you can stop whenever you want.  I don&#039;t know what to do... I was very confident about tapering down myself until I started reading all these horror stories.  Dont get me wrong, I do know people in my group (required to attend by sub doctor) who have gotten off suboxone completely with hardly any withdrawls or anxiety, so it is possible, but I&#039;m really worried about it now.  I really want to get off this stuff because It is causing me some health issues with my body, and my boyfriend and I have been talking about havings kids also.  One more thing... i used to be a really bad benzo addict and beacause of that I already have very bad anxiety so I am SUPER worried about how bad my anxiety will be coming off the Subs, and I cant really take valium, xannax, or clonopin without getting hooked, so thats one of my main concerns.  Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, my boyfriend, and my brother all have been on subs about 3 1/2 yrs.  My boyfriend and I met each other during our addiction and when we got together it went way down hill. We went from blues to heroin pretty quickly, not to mention he also received a very large settlement from getting hit by an 18 wheeler on the highway.  After the settlement we started shooting massive amounts of heroin and after getting as high as you possibly can it started to get old and to the point where we werent even getting those good rushes anymore so we decided to quit.  We went to separate houses so we wouldn&#8217;t give in to each other and I lasted about 4 days (coming off xannax too) before I started hullucinating and delerious and decided to see a doctor for suboxone.  He didn&#8217;t want to get addicted to another drug and suprisingly he lasted about 4 weeks until he relapsed because the withdrawls were still so horrible&#8230; then he decided to get on suboxone.  I honestly have no idea how either of us even made it past 24hrs.  My brother at about the same time got on suboxone as well.  3 1/2 yrs later my boyfriend and I are doing great in our sobriety but we&#8217;re ready to move on with our lives&#8230; I&#8217;m down to 6mg/day and he&#8217;s at 4mg/day.  My brother on the other hand did not follow the program correctly and had some relapses in between, he&#8217;s also taking aderol and seroquel, which was making him very all over the place and not acting normal.  We couldn&#8217;t tell if he was getting high or if it was really just the meds making him that way.  He recently came out of his funk and decided he wanted to get off of everything but when he tried to taper (from 16mg/day) he had a really hard time.  My mom did some research and found this rapid detox place in michigan where they put you under for an hour and inject you with naltrexone (not to be confused with naloxone).  Well he just flew back home from there today and is still suffering some withdrawls (mainly anxiety withdrawls&#8230; not puking).  Now my Mom and the rest of the family wants me to go there, and put out $9000 for the treatment.  To me its silly though, to pay that much money that I&#8217;ve worked very hard to save these past 3 years, and to still have to suffer withdrawls symptoms for up to 2 weeks, I mine as well just stay home and do it myself for free.  I guess the only advantage of the naltrexone is that it does heal your receptor sites, helps with cravings, and there is absolutely no withdrawl from it so you can stop whenever you want.  I don&#8217;t know what to do&#8230; I was very confident about tapering down myself until I started reading all these horror stories.  Dont get me wrong, I do know people in my group (required to attend by sub doctor) who have gotten off suboxone completely with hardly any withdrawls or anxiety, so it is possible, but I&#8217;m really worried about it now.  I really want to get off this stuff because It is causing me some health issues with my body, and my boyfriend and I have been talking about havings kids also.  One more thing&#8230; i used to be a really bad benzo addict and beacause of that I already have very bad anxiety so I am SUPER worried about how bad my anxiety will be coming off the Subs, and I cant really take valium, xannax, or clonopin without getting hooked, so thats one of my main concerns.  Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated :)</p>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45620</link>
		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 01:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive been gettin suboxone now for 5 months going on 6. I want to stop. I take 8mg a day. well I did. Im down to 4mg now. Does anyone have any advice for me? do you think it will be hard for me since it has only been about 6 months. I cant afford them. But I have to make myself get up and go to work everyday. I just feel normal wen i take one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive been gettin suboxone now for 5 months going on 6. I want to stop. I take 8mg a day. well I did. Im down to 4mg now. Does anyone have any advice for me? do you think it will be hard for me since it has only been about 6 months. I cant afford them. But I have to make myself get up and go to work everyday. I just feel normal wen i take one</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45522</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone! My heart goes out to all of you trying to get off sub. Justin- that is crazy, can you get a better sub doc? My first one was a sham too. It was give me your check and you get your script. My second doc was a true blessing. He enforced drug tests, aa/NA attendance and checked the pharmacy databases on all his patients. And most importantly, the goal wad to come off them. I didn&#039;t like all that at first, but it saved me. he gave me clonidine (blood pressure med) phenergren (antihistamine) Requip (restless legs) and trazodone (sleep). It sucked!!! But it sucked less you know. Good luck everyone!! 7/4/2011 last sub</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone! My heart goes out to all of you trying to get off sub. Justin- that is crazy, can you get a better sub doc? My first one was a sham too. It was give me your check and you get your script. My second doc was a true blessing. He enforced drug tests, aa/NA attendance and checked the pharmacy databases on all his patients. And most importantly, the goal wad to come off them. I didn&#8217;t like all that at first, but it saved me. he gave me clonidine (blood pressure med) phenergren (antihistamine) Requip (restless legs) and trazodone (sleep). It sucked!!! But it sucked less you know. Good luck everyone!! 7/4/2011 last sub</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 19:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Said KIM,,,  And oh sooo true!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 00:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

My sub withdrawal was difficult, I jumped off at 2 mg after being on them for 5 years.  Omg, the first month was uncomfortable, terrible restless leg syndrome, use hylands for this symptom it saved my life.  I started march 1, 2012 and it is now may 10, 2012.  I still feel lethargic, and spacey but it is much better.  If your asking yourself should I do it the answer is yes, yes, yes.  But, I caution you, there is no way you can go to work during the first month, the detox is just to hard.  Yes, you will feel pretty crappy, but you can have your life back.  I can barely take an aspirin at this point.  I was on vi Odin and percocet for 10 years before the subs.  I wish I dealt with the percocet withdrawal, cause suboxene withdrawal to me was no joke.  I am still feeling the effects.  This is a deep dark world the medical community has put us into.  If you want to get off suboxene try to Wien down lower than 2mgs I think that was the reason I had such a tough time of it. I have since realized that I thought I was ok but I was really high and making terrible decisions.  Everybody who is reading this do the best you can to get this s$&amp;) out of your life. I wish all that are suffering to stop wasting time and do it.  Yes, it&#039;s hard but the best thing I&#039;ve ever done.  Take my advice and take a month off.  There just isn&#039;t any other way.  I wish you all the best.  Go get um!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>My sub withdrawal was difficult, I jumped off at 2 mg after being on them for 5 years.  Omg, the first month was uncomfortable, terrible restless leg syndrome, use hylands for this symptom it saved my life.  I started march 1, 2012 and it is now may 10, 2012.  I still feel lethargic, and spacey but it is much better.  If your asking yourself should I do it the answer is yes, yes, yes.  But, I caution you, there is no way you can go to work during the first month, the detox is just to hard.  Yes, you will feel pretty crappy, but you can have your life back.  I can barely take an aspirin at this point.  I was on vi Odin and percocet for 10 years before the subs.  I wish I dealt with the percocet withdrawal, cause suboxene withdrawal to me was no joke.  I am still feeling the effects.  This is a deep dark world the medical community has put us into.  If you want to get off suboxene try to Wien down lower than 2mgs I think that was the reason I had such a tough time of it. I have since realized that I thought I was ok but I was really high and making terrible decisions.  Everybody who is reading this do the best you can to get this s$&amp;) out of your life. I wish all that are suffering to stop wasting time and do it.  Yes, it&#8217;s hard but the best thing I&#8217;ve ever done.  Take my advice and take a month off.  There just isn&#8217;t any other way.  I wish you all the best.  Go get um!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45380</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Suboxone is not to be taken lightly. I was on the medication for over 2 years before I started coming off of it. I started at 8mg 2 x day and I would move down 2 mg a week which was easier than you would think until I got to 2mg. I did have leg and foot cramps, my shoulders hurt, and headaches but I wanted off. I worked my way down after being on 2mg for a couple of months I moved down .25mg a day every 4 or 5 days. Once i got down to .25 per day I still couldn&#039;t go 3 days without so I improvised. I took a brand new visine bottle and washed it out good. I added 5ml of water and 2mg of a strip of suboxone. After mixing I put the bottle in the ice box. There were right at 100 drops in the bottle so I started with 8 drops per day and every 4 days I moved down 1 drop. It took me a while but no real bad withdrawals, a little sneezing and low energy but once I got down to 4 drops a day I started missing a day between drops. So however it worked for me just thought I would share. Good luck, Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Suboxone is not to be taken lightly. I was on the medication for over 2 years before I started coming off of it. I started at 8mg 2 x day and I would move down 2 mg a week which was easier than you would think until I got to 2mg. I did have leg and foot cramps, my shoulders hurt, and headaches but I wanted off. I worked my way down after being on 2mg for a couple of months I moved down .25mg a day every 4 or 5 days. Once i got down to .25 per day I still couldn&#8217;t go 3 days without so I improvised. I took a brand new visine bottle and washed it out good. I added 5ml of water and 2mg of a strip of suboxone. After mixing I put the bottle in the ice box. There were right at 100 drops in the bottle so I started with 8 drops per day and every 4 days I moved down 1 drop. It took me a while but no real bad withdrawals, a little sneezing and low energy but once I got down to 4 drops a day I started missing a day between drops. So however it worked for me just thought I would share. Good luck, Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Suboxone is not to be taken lightly. I was on the medication for over 2 years before I started coming off of it. I started at 8mg 2 x day and I would move down 2 mg a week which was easier than you would think until I got to 2mg. I did have leg and foot cramps, my shoulders hurt, and headaches but I wanted off. I worked my way down after being on 2mg for a couple of months I moved down .25mg every 4 or 5 days. Once i got down to .25 per day I still couldn&#039;t go 3 days without so I improvised. I took a brand new visine bottle and washed it out good. I added 5ml of water and 2mg of a strip of suboxone. After mixing I put the bottle in the ice box. There were right at 100 drops in the bottle so I started with 8 drops per day and every 4 days I moved down 1 drop. It took me a while but no real bad withdrawals, a little sneezing and low energy but once I got down to 4 drops a day I started missing a day between drops. So however it worked for me just thought I would share. Good luck, Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Suboxone is not to be taken lightly. I was on the medication for over 2 years before I started coming off of it. I started at 8mg 2 x day and I would move down 2 mg a week which was easier than you would think until I got to 2mg. I did have leg and foot cramps, my shoulders hurt, and headaches but I wanted off. I worked my way down after being on 2mg for a couple of months I moved down .25mg every 4 or 5 days. Once i got down to .25 per day I still couldn&#8217;t go 3 days without so I improvised. I took a brand new visine bottle and washed it out good. I added 5ml of water and 2mg of a strip of suboxone. After mixing I put the bottle in the ice box. There were right at 100 drops in the bottle so I started with 8 drops per day and every 4 days I moved down 1 drop. It took me a while but no real bad withdrawals, a little sneezing and low energy but once I got down to 4 drops a day I started missing a day between drops. So however it worked for me just thought I would share. Good luck, Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45329</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 02:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats cool alot of people are still hitting this page up, i know its been here for a little bit!
Anyway ive been on Subs for almost 3yrs, just like the guy that started this blog. The sad thing is i started sub after being on opiates for only about 1 1/2 years. I checked myself into rehab and the docs there suggested i go to a suboxone doc (hmm a bit fishy) Anyway he gave me way to high a dose for my exp. with opiates and have been slowly weening down, and am now at a little under 2mg(of the strips). Sub has both stabilized my life and ruined it in many aspects. I dont drink, go out much, or have a social life. Its like when i started sub i just hit the pause button on my life. Im planning on getting off this summer but i am scared to death. My a**hole doc wont give me anything to help with w/d&#039;s even though he charges me 300$ a month and drug tests me (always clean except a few mj positives). If anyone wants to chat with me about sub please email me loserdub@gmail.com
I guess its a little more difficult when no one understands what the whole sub thing is about  P.S if anyone has a good taper sched let me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats cool alot of people are still hitting this page up, i know its been here for a little bit!<br />
Anyway ive been on Subs for almost 3yrs, just like the guy that started this blog. The sad thing is i started sub after being on opiates for only about 1 1/2 years. I checked myself into rehab and the docs there suggested i go to a suboxone doc (hmm a bit fishy) Anyway he gave me way to high a dose for my exp. with opiates and have been slowly weening down, and am now at a little under 2mg(of the strips). Sub has both stabilized my life and ruined it in many aspects. I dont drink, go out much, or have a social life. Its like when i started sub i just hit the pause button on my life. Im planning on getting off this summer but i am scared to death. My a**hole doc wont give me anything to help with w/d&#8217;s even though he charges me 300$ a month and drug tests me (always clean except a few mj positives). If anyone wants to chat with me about sub please email me <a href="mailto:loserdub@gmail.com">loserdub@gmail.com</a><br />
I guess its a little more difficult when no one understands what the whole sub thing is about  P.S if anyone has a good taper sched let me know!</p>
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		<title>By: Not again?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not again?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 23:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone ever feel sick while taking this crap? I feel like death and cant eat enough....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone ever feel sick while taking this crap? I feel like death and cant eat enough&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelley williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one suboxone left, and i now am realising that i need to quit because my boyfriend is telling me that since over the past six months that drinking and doing suboxone in combination has affected my life greatly; i am terrified of not doing it anymore because i feel like i mentally can not handle it; but with him telling me that being on suboxone makes me &quot;sparatic&quot; and that my thoughts are askew; ill be talking about one thing and then go clean or something; i dont have a prescription nor do i know how to get one i have one and a half subs left.. and i have to figure out a way to wean myself off of this so i wont have to go through hell, im terrfired and nervous and almost wish i could just go to the hospital and be put under anesthsia and go into rapid detox and come out swinging.. im not sure how i can do this on m y own i need to quit subs get a better job, get my ged, get my license and how am i supposed to improve myself if i am going to have months of misery and discomfort. i just wish there was an answer for me to my problem. i now i dont want to have the worries of if i run out ; but i like the comfort suboxone gives me; im terrfired of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one suboxone left, and i now am realising that i need to quit because my boyfriend is telling me that since over the past six months that drinking and doing suboxone in combination has affected my life greatly; i am terrified of not doing it anymore because i feel like i mentally can not handle it; but with him telling me that being on suboxone makes me &#8220;sparatic&#8221; and that my thoughts are askew; ill be talking about one thing and then go clean or something; i dont have a prescription nor do i know how to get one i have one and a half subs left.. and i have to figure out a way to wean myself off of this so i wont have to go through hell, im terrfired and nervous and almost wish i could just go to the hospital and be put under anesthsia and go into rapid detox and come out swinging.. im not sure how i can do this on m y own i need to quit subs get a better job, get my ged, get my license and how am i supposed to improve myself if i am going to have months of misery and discomfort. i just wish there was an answer for me to my problem. i now i dont want to have the worries of if i run out ; but i like the comfort suboxone gives me; im terrfired of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45190</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 02:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela- First of all your doctor obviously doesn&#039;t know jack about suboxone and what its like to get off of it.  I know this, because my doctor said the same thing.  Its a &quot;designer&quot; drug and maybe you need counseling, is what I was told.  No doc, what I need is to not feel like complete shit when coming off of the subs?  So, this is my advice to you.  I think you need to talk to your boyfriend.  I finally told my gf I was on subs after 3 years.  And she had no clue.  I was freaking out, but I told her everything.  And she now stands behind me and supports me, even though she is the biggest anti-drug person I&#039;ve ever met.  The reason I say that you need to tell him, is because you&#039;re going to need his support.  Will he give that to you??  I also suggest getting off the subs while you&#039;re not working.  It will be so much easier without the stress of work.  I took 2 wk&#039;s off to detox, and then jumped right back in.  But if I could take more time off I personally would.  But don&#039;t get me wrong, Im on day 19 and I feel waaay better than I did during week 1.  Also, if you can taper down to nearly nothing it will help the entire process, by speeding it up.  Your body adjusts to the lower dose, will you have wd still, yes.  Is it still going to suck?  Yes, but it doesn&#039;t have to be that bad.  Plus I truly believe that some other things can be done to make the situation better.  Eating healthy and lots of protein is good for the brain.  Drink lots of water.  I had Clonadine prescribed to me for the chills and sweats, and a sleeping medication to help me get through the nights.. Does any of this sound helpful?  I wish you the best.  -S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela- First of all your doctor obviously doesn&#8217;t know jack about suboxone and what its like to get off of it.  I know this, because my doctor said the same thing.  Its a &#8220;designer&#8221; drug and maybe you need counseling, is what I was told.  No doc, what I need is to not feel like complete shit when coming off of the subs?  So, this is my advice to you.  I think you need to talk to your boyfriend.  I finally told my gf I was on subs after 3 years.  And she had no clue.  I was freaking out, but I told her everything.  And she now stands behind me and supports me, even though she is the biggest anti-drug person I&#8217;ve ever met.  The reason I say that you need to tell him, is because you&#8217;re going to need his support.  Will he give that to you??  I also suggest getting off the subs while you&#8217;re not working.  It will be so much easier without the stress of work.  I took 2 wk&#8217;s off to detox, and then jumped right back in.  But if I could take more time off I personally would.  But don&#8217;t get me wrong, Im on day 19 and I feel waaay better than I did during week 1.  Also, if you can taper down to nearly nothing it will help the entire process, by speeding it up.  Your body adjusts to the lower dose, will you have wd still, yes.  Is it still going to suck?  Yes, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be that bad.  Plus I truly believe that some other things can be done to make the situation better.  Eating healthy and lots of protein is good for the brain.  Drink lots of water.  I had Clonadine prescribed to me for the chills and sweats, and a sleeping medication to help me get through the nights.. Does any of this sound helpful?  I wish you the best.  -S</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela,,Ltes see ,,Boyfreind that is selfish and ignorant Or a happy fulfilled life sub free!!1 HUMMMM. Decisions decisions????</description>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45177</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 19:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a problem...besided being on suboxone. I need some input from you guys out there. My boyfriend that I have been with off and on for 3 years or so and love dearly, thinks that I&#039;m free from suboxone because I had told him I was tapering off the drug and was. I had gotton down to less than 2 mg a day and I did attempt to jump and stop all together. When I did stop, I experienced the chills , sweats, yawning, eye&#039;s watering, aches and pains. I called a help line to ask questions as to what to do to lesson the withdrawals and they just told me that I needed to talk to my doctor for help. But my doctor acts like there&#039;s nothing to it and just wants to give me prozac. I am trying to get off drugs...not just keep switching drugs...ya know.? 
I hear and have read that tapering does nothing....that once you stop...the same withdrawals will happen.
My problem is  that I am living with a man that I love dearly, and he knew that I was on suboxone and that I was tapering off, I told him I was done with suboxone because I thought I was near the end of it all. But when I stopped altogether taking it, I immediately started having those withdrawals and I had indicated that I was off of them to my boyfriend. so to keep him from getting upset with me, thinking that I lied to him, I just got back on them for a time being, (low dose) becasue I have read that it could take 15 days or so of withdrawals but 6 months for my brain to repair and I would be more anxious and more depressed during this 6 months. 
I am fearfull of how I will operate and funtion during those 6 months. I want to succeed and be free from suboxone, but I will have to tell my boyfriend that I&#039;m living with what may happen to me for 6 months. He does not deal with things very well and I&#039;m just afraid of how he will react...
But this would be a perfect time to get off suboxone because I am not working right now and I&#039;m afraid that stopping when I start a new job , would just cause me more anxiety and problems.
I know I need to tell my boyfriend and not be afraid of what he things or does. I just wish that I had been told the truth from my doctor before he put me on this drug. I could have just sweated the withdrawals 2 years ago without the 6 months of brain recovery. ya know. 
I want to do this withdrawal at home on my own...but need some advice on what i can do to lesson the effects of withdrawal for the 6 months... Exercise is one...I know, but anyone have any other tips for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a problem&#8230;besided being on suboxone. I need some input from you guys out there. My boyfriend that I have been with off and on for 3 years or so and love dearly, thinks that I&#8217;m free from suboxone because I had told him I was tapering off the drug and was. I had gotton down to less than 2 mg a day and I did attempt to jump and stop all together. When I did stop, I experienced the chills , sweats, yawning, eye&#8217;s watering, aches and pains. I called a help line to ask questions as to what to do to lesson the withdrawals and they just told me that I needed to talk to my doctor for help. But my doctor acts like there&#8217;s nothing to it and just wants to give me prozac. I am trying to get off drugs&#8230;not just keep switching drugs&#8230;ya know.?<br />
I hear and have read that tapering does nothing&#8230;.that once you stop&#8230;the same withdrawals will happen.<br />
My problem is  that I am living with a man that I love dearly, and he knew that I was on suboxone and that I was tapering off, I told him I was done with suboxone because I thought I was near the end of it all. But when I stopped altogether taking it, I immediately started having those withdrawals and I had indicated that I was off of them to my boyfriend. so to keep him from getting upset with me, thinking that I lied to him, I just got back on them for a time being, (low dose) becasue I have read that it could take 15 days or so of withdrawals but 6 months for my brain to repair and I would be more anxious and more depressed during this 6 months.<br />
I am fearfull of how I will operate and funtion during those 6 months. I want to succeed and be free from suboxone, but I will have to tell my boyfriend that I&#8217;m living with what may happen to me for 6 months. He does not deal with things very well and I&#8217;m just afraid of how he will react&#8230;<br />
But this would be a perfect time to get off suboxone because I am not working right now and I&#8217;m afraid that stopping when I start a new job , would just cause me more anxiety and problems.<br />
I know I need to tell my boyfriend and not be afraid of what he things or does. I just wish that I had been told the truth from my doctor before he put me on this drug. I could have just sweated the withdrawals 2 years ago without the 6 months of brain recovery. ya know.<br />
I want to do this withdrawal at home on my own&#8230;but need some advice on what i can do to lesson the effects of withdrawal for the 6 months&#8230; Exercise is one&#8230;I know, but anyone have any other tips for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodora</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-45073</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three yrs and 7 months and i am &quot;stuck&quot; @ one third of an 8mg strip. Got off for 2mos exactly two years ago but the PAWS was so bad&amp; i was not prepared. I also used endless amounts of benzos to help w/anxiety&amp;my inability to sleep which i believe left me in a constant state of rebound anxiety. That and the fact that i did not exercise except when i would DRAG myself to work(waiting tables)...i guess i just wasn&#039;t truly ready. Or prepared. As soon as my boyfriend slipped i used it as an excuse. I honesly believed for a long time that i only started using the pills to FEEL BETTER but now that its been 2 yrs&amp;i&#039;m stuck, i have to wonder. Beat myself up about this for a long long time but now i try to be kind &amp;tell myself taking this is better than chasing the pills. I am tired of the lethargy&amp;aches&amp;social withdrawal&amp;sexual despondency though. I really do want ME back. So yes, this was just a vent session! In all these yrs i&#039;ve obtained a LOT of knowledge about Suboxone,AND addiction.And i&#039;m in therapy.So SOME DAY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three yrs and 7 months and i am &#8220;stuck&#8221; @ one third of an 8mg strip. Got off for 2mos exactly two years ago but the PAWS was so bad&amp; i was not prepared. I also used endless amounts of benzos to help w/anxiety&amp;my inability to sleep which i believe left me in a constant state of rebound anxiety. That and the fact that i did not exercise except when i would DRAG myself to work(waiting tables)&#8230;i guess i just wasn&#8217;t truly ready. Or prepared. As soon as my boyfriend slipped i used it as an excuse. I honesly believed for a long time that i only started using the pills to FEEL BETTER but now that its been 2 yrs&amp;i&#8217;m stuck, i have to wonder. Beat myself up about this for a long long time but now i try to be kind &amp;tell myself taking this is better than chasing the pills. I am tired of the lethargy&amp;aches&amp;social withdrawal&amp;sexual despondency though. I really do want ME back. So yes, this was just a vent session! In all these yrs i&#8217;ve obtained a LOT of knowledge about Suboxone,AND addiction.And i&#8217;m in therapy.So SOME DAY</p>
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		<title>By: MZEE</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-44966</link>
		<dc:creator>MZEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am on day 6 off of a 3 and a half year stint on suboxone... feeling pretty good despite not really sleeping in the last 4 days. I know eventually I will feel better but jesus christ this insomnia really sucks!!!! I was on 1mg for a month before my jump and on 2mg a month before that and so on and so forth... my highest dose over the years was 16 mg for a year and a half then went down to 8mg before the long taper.  Going to the gym tonight to try to tire out my body... hopefully it works.  Having insomnia with 3 children and a job in construction thats quite physical is definitely not fun... just needed to vent to someone... I go to AA also but my group is unfamiliar with Subs. thanks for listening</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on day 6 off of a 3 and a half year stint on suboxone&#8230; feeling pretty good despite not really sleeping in the last 4 days. I know eventually I will feel better but jesus christ this insomnia really sucks!!!! I was on 1mg for a month before my jump and on 2mg a month before that and so on and so forth&#8230; my highest dose over the years was 16 mg for a year and a half then went down to 8mg before the long taper.  Going to the gym tonight to try to tire out my body&#8230; hopefully it works.  Having insomnia with 3 children and a job in construction thats quite physical is definitely not fun&#8230; just needed to vent to someone&#8230; I go to AA also but my group is unfamiliar with Subs. thanks for listening</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://suboxonetaper.com/after-suboxone/comment-page-4/#comment-44911</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Day 15 and today is the best I have felt.  Brian is right, today is the day you see the light.  If I can do it, so can you!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Day 15 and today is the best I have felt.  Brian is right, today is the day you see the light.  If I can do it, so can you!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDK Im on day 12 and I still get the worst sleep.  Was on Subs for over 3 years maybe that is why?  All I know is that everyday is one more stepping stone to being done.  Anybody out there have more information as to what helps for week 2 &amp; 3?  I read somewhere about taking sam-E but its bad for high blood pressure..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDK Im on day 12 and I still get the worst sleep.  Was on Subs for over 3 years maybe that is why?  All I know is that everyday is one more stepping stone to being done.  Anybody out there have more information as to what helps for week 2 &amp; 3?  I read somewhere about taking sam-E but its bad for high blood pressure..</p>
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		<title>By: slipped</title>
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		<dc:creator>slipped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone,

Not sure if this is the place to post this but I&#039;m feeling desperate. I have been off subs for a total of twelve days, and slipped tonight and did a 30mg oxy. I&#039;m scared I&#039;m going to go right back into those horrible WDs instead of just having the fatigue and chills part... anyone with experience on this? I would appreciate anything! Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>Not sure if this is the place to post this but I&#8217;m feeling desperate. I have been off subs for a total of twelve days, and slipped tonight and did a 30mg oxy. I&#8217;m scared I&#8217;m going to go right back into those horrible WDs instead of just having the fatigue and chills part&#8230; anyone with experience on this? I would appreciate anything! Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: tysticky</title>
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		<dc:creator>tysticky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i typed  in day 10 for some reason it says day 12     but its day 10 with nothin in my system</description>
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		<title>By: tysticky</title>
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		<dc:creator>tysticky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an up date from sticky day 12        2 days  ago i responded and told u guys i couldn&#039;t sleep that same nite i got ahold of  colodapan and been sleepin like a baby and now that i can actually get some sleep i feel like a million bucks and everyday i get stronger and stronger.        to every body who is on day 1 through 10 and still feeling shitty it gets  easier cause  u start feeling  like the old u.    the u b4 ur
 addiction .
sun shinning days are around the corner u just got to make it through winter</description>
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sun shinning days are around the corner u just got to make it through winter</p>
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