My Suboxone Experience
My Suboxone Experience
First thing, keep in mind that the following post / notes of mine were written before I did my suboxone taper and final jump off suboxone. Been off the sub for a year and 4 months now; so this was written a long while back. Shows my thought process before I decided to take the next step. You can read how I went about my taper day to day in the post Suboxone Taper 101.
My Suboxone Experience cont’d: (written about a year and half ago)
If you are an think or have a problem with pain meds / opiates, are recovering from opiate dependence or are just stuck and trying to get help; you understand when searching forums that useless posts that don’t answer your questions regarding how to go about a suboxone taper and or how the withdrawal process is…it’s f***ing frustrating. I just want to find the answers or discussions about what it feels like coming off the sub, can it be done, should it be done, is it as bad as coming off all other opiates cold turkey and so on.
To date I have really only found one good site that gives some great info from both sides of the coin (suboxonetalkzone.com). There ARE alot of good forums out there and to everyone that visits these forums, I appreciate you taking the time to post. Just sometimes the direct question which is most important gets lost in just “talk”.
I have found a site and I’ll list a couple more, but if you want to get some good info on what suboxone can do for you, what steps you should take overall, suboxone info, withdrawal info and straight to the point relevant stuff that you’ll want to know…check out the following
What are the Suboxone Taper / Withdrawal forums giving us? Good info? Or just BS!
Here’s the thing; we all read on the suboxone forums the posts / opinions that people put up. There are (on most) sites 2 categories that dominate the suboxone taper subject; the ways it can help you or the way it has helped others or maybe even yourself. Then on the other hand you get the real space cadets that think it is a clandestine project by the New World Order called Operation Octagon Mallard Duck. It seems on this side of the subject ”THEY” (the NWO) are trying to get you to switch from your OLD brand of coffee to THEIRS. This theory goes on to state how once you have tasted that NWO Suboxone Java, you’ll just never want to stop! The side effects associated with this myth is…that your brain will be picking up and receiving ELF, AM, FM and XM radio for the rest of your life.
My Suboxone Experience cont’d:
Factual websites about the “Discontinuation Syndrome” that follows when you stop taking your Doctor Prescribed medicine are all in generalities. The info you are looking for and the questions you have are just not out there. You can find alot of technical info, but no advice, no suggestions and no answers to “what the f**k is it like to taper”. What you do get is usually copied and pasted from a f***ing facts and questions site regarding aspirin, bananas and what to expect after self installing a toilet. You’ll get the same b.s., “when discontinuing your suboxone / buprenorphine you might feel some of these symptons”.
- Dysphoric mood (this was interesting, I did feel this when I stopped my sub, very vertigo like)
- Piloerection (makes your hair stand up)
- Nausea or vomiting
- Lacrimation (tearing up)
- Rhinorrhea (runny nose)
- Pupillary dilation
- Sweating
- Diarrhea
- Muscle aches/cramps
- Yawning
- Mild fever
- Insomnia
- Craving
- Distress/irritability
In addition and what makes this whole “looking for REAL F-ing information” so much worse is the 2 cents EVERYONE has to put in. There is or seems to be a shit load of people out there that have what they feel are the answers and scare everyone to death. Most go on only about how much vicodin, oxy, percs etc. they used to take and how they are now “trapped” by suboxone (like they weren’t already f***ed before) or how they fell off the wagon cause the suboxone was so hard to stop (read my Taper 101 post, it wasn’t that bad).
The Suboxone Taper or Withdrawal Forums have topics that generally start like this for example:
“My name is Bill (example only) I’m looking for advice and HELP from anyone who has tapered off their suboxone / subutex / buprenorphine. What is it like? How does the withdrawals and tapering compare to w/d’s from oxy or any other hard opiate? Has anyone succeeded? Should I just stay on the suboxone? Can you taper long enough to minimize withdrawals or have no w/ds at all? I have been on sub for 2 years and want to get off after changing my life…etc..etc…etc”.
Ok, so… Good question posted by Bill. The guy just wants some basic advice, I’m sure he wants more, but it’s a pretty straight forward question, be it there are a few, but you get what I mean.
HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF COMPLETE BS AND IRRESPONSIBLE REPLIES TO “BILL” FROM MORANS AND PEOPLE THAT DON’T HAVE A F*****G CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT:
“Wow, oh boy, oh golly… I have never heard of anyone being on suboxone SOOOO long! Gee wiz…. I read that you can taper down on suboxone / subutex / buprenorphine but you are only supposed to be on it like 1 or 2 weeks… I would get another doctor. I have never taken suboxone and am not an opiate addict but thought I could give you my two cents and good advice”
“Hi Bill, My name is Leon and I have been an addict for 12 years on Oxy, H, Vicodin…etc… I took like 197 Vicodin and 93 40mg Oxycontins on the average per day. I tried to detox using a combination of Suboxone and fentanyl patches on my forehead. Then tried tapering with scotch tape, now I am back on the wagon taking 52 Oxy 80mgs a day and dressing like a giraffe” (Ok…congratulations asshole….your f-ing point is?)
Those were just a couple of the stupid posts that people bring up, I can go on for pages but this next following post we have all seen on a “Question about Suboxone Tapering Forum”. It is the stupidest one ever! It’s the most common and EVERY forum has one these guys or gals.
“My name is Cindy (again, example only) and I’m here to tell you DONT TAKE SUBOXONE, your Doctors are just trying to trap you. You are only trading one opiate for another. Once you are on it, it is almost impossible to get off. Take it from me, I have tried numerous times and now I am selling my ass on the streets after my “friends” that I kept hanging around with, by my own free will, that shoot H every day and take oxy… they finally FORCED me into the Dope again, sure beats the suboxone”.
Regarding the example post above; so what this idiot is saying is just stay on whatever you were totally jacking yourself with cause that is better? Suboxone WORKS. It’s a “BUFFER” for your life, so you can get your LIFE back on track. This gives you time to tell your “so called” friends to F-off and to get things stabilized again, so you can get back to work, get back to being pro-active and to keep the wallet / purse from going south….and of course to save your life from OD’ing. These addicts are just pissed that other people are REALLY either trying to… or are getting help ON their own with a little or no help. Cont’d:
Tags: opiates and suboxone, Suboxone Experience, suboxone experiences, Suboxone Taper
Comments (49)
Substuk… I am going to rebuild the entire site this next coming weekend. I’ll make it a hell of alot of easier to post and find comments. It’s been a long time coming. The site will “not” be down during the updates. Thanks for posting… wish you the best.
Brian
SuboxoneTaper.com
info@subuxonetaper.com
im sending my notes to taper 101. im new to this and didnt understand different categories. SS
hey jyunbo, your girl works in a rehab for sub addicts and you say they feel better by day 20. how do thay dose you? if you have any tips I would appreciate it. If I cant make it through this taper I am going into rehab but unsure how they will wean me. I dont want to go in with a large habbit like 8 mgs. then I think they might not take me if I tell them Ive weaned down to 1 mg. and cant finish the wean. ?
thanks for all your experience. today is my first day on 1 mg. and feel very depressed. I have been doing the 25% reduction every 4 days but find it hard when around .5 mgs. I then usually end up doing like 2 mg. to get back to normal feeling . I have been in this cycle for over a year. not good. ss
To the person who said they were on suboxone for 5 months or so. I too was on it for about 8-9 months and went off of it as easy as pie. I wish I never went back on it but I did and was on it for 2 years and something happened. I was in the hospital for a cold turkey detox for 11 days and I didn’t even get out of the bed. I was sent home and then after 5 days I felt like I was going to either kill myself or take a pill and I took the pill and now I’m so afraid because I can never go through that again. I was on 4 mgs. when they took me off cold turkey but by then I was addicted. That person was lucky and I’m very happy for that person and hope they never went back on subutex or suboxone. Laura
And chills sry ive been smoking weed but cant g et any tonight the weed and video games help
Hi I did subs for a week to get off d I was taking 4mg as needed havnt taken any in 3 days and the depression is all I got so far and its hard but I work harder to get up n go then while im there I wanna stop bit if I take a 2mg wen im dying will that restart the withdrawal thx email me at almightyballa@gmail.com after working tonight my body hurts I think im going to take a 2mg so I can sleep plz help with how long I have to go thru this and if im making a mistake and restarting the sub wd by doing this
Thanks for the site… I was taking Avinza 90mgs after
neck surgery for 12 yrs… Biggest problem is most people
have noclue what it is ( morphine time release pills)…
I decided it was enough , took action to get clean…
After calling a V.A. hospital who told me they use
methodone , which I refused to go down that path, so
I went to a doctor who deals with suboxone….
I started with 16 MGs a day & have lowered my dosage
every 6-8 days( as I have only felt traces of withdrawals)..
I’ve gone from 16-12-8mgs & now went to 6, 4 days ago…
My question is … How difficult is it to go from 1MG to
being clean… The doctor has no idea about this & I am in
the dark… I know it’s still a long journey a day at a time…
Most of all I will never be able to drink OJ again as the
film makes me ill… Thank you again,
I started taking opiates as a cure for depression and anxiety. Yeah, I liked it and it made me a superwoman-for awhile. My father got sick with cancer and I decided I had to stop the madness of chasing the blues, the greens, bananas, whatever so that I could be there for my family. I found a great doctor who put me on subs 8mg to start and we started a Zoloft regimen for me. Every month I would taper down 2 mg and 8 to 6 was fine but I had issues with 6-4 so we increased my Zoloft and tried again after a month. I was down to 1/2 mg as of this past week. Then a friend asked me to get some blues (30mg oxycondone) and as soon as I had them in my hand I took a few. Anyway, my biggest problem with w/d is anxiety. I guess it had been long enough that I didnt get the sleeping creeping legs although I did have some gastrointestinal issues. I’m just worried I am going to kick again and I don’t want to lose my job or my life that I liked when I was on the subs cuz I made a really bad choice. I am 72 hours out of the binge and I have barely any subs left cuz I was on such a small amount. I don’t know when to start the subs again or at all.
Believe me when I say I feel for everyone on this site. This is not fun. If you can take drugs recreationally-have at it. I can’t. Any advice is appreciated. ty
been on sub for 5 years, tried many times to get off but now i’m using nucynta to block the wd pain. I’m on day 7 still feel terrible. I think the worst is over. by the way my girlfriend worked on a detox unit in johns hopkins hospital, she said that all her sub patients report feeling better by day 20
I just wanted to add my two cents. I read these sites all the time and never decided to post until now. I have done everything under the sun as much of you have and am literally an expert on this matter. I have gone through all the hells you can ever imagine in everyway but this is not bad. I was doing 8mg of suboxone a day for only 5 months after being on 4 80mg oc a day for almost 5 years. I have found a new gf and a new life and 100% decided just to stop and have. It is day 5 and the WD has been very mild. I have maintained focus and have tried to pretend it didn’t exist. The gf I have been with knows nothing of this matter and she is so fabulous that I had to hide it. My point is that it is not that bad. Compared to a true opiod w/d it is like a minor inconvience. I did not taper at all I 100% just quit taking it as I was on vacation and they ran out so I just decided fuck it I dont need this stupid $(%$%( medicine anymore. I just want people to know you will get through it you just have to want to get through it.
I’m in the middle of my tapper going from 4 mg a day down to the little shavings twice a day. I’m having some tightness and heavyness in my chest trying to catch my breath with yawning. Has anyone eles experienced this? It then sends me into a panic attack which I think is from the buprenorphine as well.
For all those who feel they are trapped with taking suboxone as a maintenance drug and are too afraid to get off from the withdrawals:
I Feel you. I relapsed twice after being on it for five years. Past year, I was down to 1.25 a day.
While I may not be making money off others, asking for donations, which some have and is extremely selfish, I will out of the kindness of my heart, and hope that others will NOT SPEND 20K on any BS procedure to so call help get you off SUboxone or other opiates.
The answer: KRATOM POWDER!!! Seven days, six nights, minor withdrawal. THAT IS THE ANSWER> Yes, it is derived from a plant which does get you high but has NO WITHDRAWALS if taken for a short period of time.
Why don’t others mention KRATOM ANY FUCKING GODDMAN WHERE ON THE INTERNET!!! BECause, in it for mucho dinero. Get Kratom!
TO start let me say, You Can Do It!!!!!
I had an accident 37years ago and was on pain pills up to 3 years ago. The pain pills didn’t work and they wanted to put me on Methadone. As a DR, I said absolutely no. My pain specialist then said their is a new drug Suboxone. You won’t build tolerance and there is no withdrawal. I said lets try it. No pain. Tried to get life insurance and was rejected because of the suboxone. I thought to myself just quit using it. No need to write what everyone has written, the WD’s were brutal. I finally slept for the first time in 8 days, and the gun has not come back to my head yet. It is my 9th day free. Maybe I am over the worst, but maybe not. Anyway, the orange pill will not win!! I am going to win. Whether you started on the game by choice, or by circumstance does not matter. You have to pay to play, and we will all pay! But read these posts, see that it does get better, that you can beat it, that you can finally be free to live life without the cloud! If it helps, say the Serenity Prayer, if it doesn’t go running, do anything but give in, and we can all win over “Mr Orange”!!!
BAH!!! Holy crap – I am on day 7 – jumping off of 8mg /day for what..5-6 years?? This is BS! I left oxycontin and thought I would die, but that lasted only a few – 4 days. Right now I haven’t slept in 3 nights – my legs jump and wont let me sleep. I moved away from my DR and thought I could get in another program, but alas – there are no sub drs here! Even though there are listings on outdated sub sites. UGH! I am going to see if my original doc can let walgreens ship me some pills – I am missing work and I have allot of shit to do…. right now I am paralyzed.. with diarrhea and chills – sneezing…. I will probably lose my job – I have not been able to work for the past 2 days and it looks like tomorrow’s a wash too.. this sucks..but of course it’s my fault. Oh well thanks for the site! I hope I survive to revisit!
I got to say I never really had pill problem, yes if they were around I’d take them but never to where I would withdraw and never in my life have I done heroin (thank god) but one day 6 years ago my buddy gave me a suboxone and it was the best high of my life I loved it and I got pretty messed up on it for a year after that now I need it just to get out of bed, I don’t get high off it just feel normal and ready for the day, I went to a program that had me on 4 8mg a day and kept telling me I’m not ready to taper so a few years later I got a privet doctor and he got me down to one 8 mg a day also I’m on film now not tab but my point is suboxone is my drug of choice and what ever I do I just can’t seem to kick it I hate depending on something just to get through the day and yes when it comes to the withdraw I’m week I can’t handle it what is the best way to stop without having to be put in a coma for a month…
I LOVE this guy. Brian you are a srtraight shooter. Thanks so much for everything you are doing. You cut through the bull and I imagine after you got straight you run your businesses the same way–Straight to the point.
I am on Day 11 of cold turkey stopping Suboxone after 2 years. I actually wrote you an email a day or so ago. I am slowly coming around. For me–Days 5-9 were probably the worst. I experienced many of the symptoms on your list: My biggest complaint is the insomnia. I have “graduated” from the “creepy crawly skin”, runny nose, body aches, weepy emotions–and now have diarhrea and basically feel wrung out and weak. I had to change a car battery and it wiped me out! lol But let me encourage anyone going through this–Brian is right. You do get through it. I’m not even done with it but know it is getting better. Read Brian’s articlle about Life After. That’s all for now. Tomorrow is Day 12. I cant wait for Day 112. But they will come as all days do: one at a time.
One of the important considerations in taking buprenorphene is how long you have to wait between your last dose of whatever opiate you’re taking and your first dose of buprenorphene. The literature states that a minimum of 12 to 24 hours is required or it can actually extend the withdrawal symptoms. I think that relates to the half life of the meds you’re taking. So, for example, with hydrocodone (a shorter acting med) the 12 hours would probably be enough. But for longer acting meds, like methadone, the time would be increased. As always though, do your independent research or ask a knowledgeable health care provider. I just call attention to this because it seems to be an important consideration. Never just assume what somebody says is actually true. People mean well but can be wrong. That’s why it’s important to get verifiable information from a known expert source before acting on any advice. Good luck everyone and keep the faith.
I currentlely am doing the methadone maitence program. I am thinking about switching over to suboxene? My father just found out I have struggled with opiods for the last couple years. He went to the hospital with me were the nurse blurted out that Im on methadone. Nice HIPPA practice, lol. Anyway, is suboxene a better way to go then methadone? Can someone please tell me the differance, I know that Im ready to be completely clean of opiods and want this over with, im tired of going to the clinic and i was in school recentely and was not able to stay awake for my classes. Does Sub. make u tired like meth.?
So i dont get it, is there a withdrawl from suboxene…. Whats the differance between methadone and suboxene?
I have been prescribed this miracle drug for 5 years now. It is not to get me off opoids completly, only to maintain me. I was previously presctibed so much OCs and other opoids, it was ridiculous. I am now maintained on a minimul dose of Suboxone
I now havw a normal life thank you
On day 7. Everything that was said in the taper is true for me except the “Piloerection”, “Crawling out of my f***** skin” is the symtom that has me baffled. The post you have is great. I have done all the bullshit internet searching taken ht5, same, tyrosine, b6, b12, immodium, clonidine, calcium, magnesium, bananas, over the counter sleep medication. It all does nothing. Save your money and hope to get day 12.
I take Suboxone and needed surgery. I didn’t want anyone to know I was taking Sub so I said nothing when being admitted to the hospital. The post op pain killers did nothing because of the blocking effect Naloxone has. Don’t do this to yourself. I felt pain like never before and they couldn’t figure out why all the drugs they were pumping into me didn’t numb the pain. I went through Hell. Their answer was “weve given you everything we can”, “your at the maximum amount of Morphine we can administer”.
I’ve been on Subs for over three years now, the last two being only on Subs. Before that the multiple concoctions that everyone else speaks of here. Anyway, i am jumping, don’t have a choice. I was on 32MG, in one week went down to 16MG, starting to morrow the 1st i go down to 8MG, stay there for 30 days, then 4 for thirty days, then 2, then 1. Then we’ll see where i’m at, because at that point there is no Dr. No new refill, no new visits. Time to be a man, and get the most out of my life that i have already gained most of it back, but some still missing. But this is a hell of a lot better than kicking OXY. I can tell you that.
I,ve been taking suboxone for almost 2 years, after being on oxycontin, daluadid for 5 years. over 2 years i have went from 16mg a day to 1mg a day. sorry to say i an still on the 1mg.as anyone who has abused opiates knows it’s very hard.not just the pill part but also mentally being ready to control the craving without suboxone to back you up.suboxone is not the cure alone, alot more to getting clean. I would be in prison or worse if not for suboxone and it did not work the first time, so people who want to get clean suboxone is a great tool to use and if it does not work the first time keep tryin cuz in my opinion anything is better then the alternative.
I HAVE BEEN ON SUBOXONE NOW FOR 15 MONTHS,
IT IS A RAPID GROWTH CYCLE FOR ME IN SOCIETY,
IT SAVED MY LIFE, I HAVE LIKE OTHER OPIATE ADDICTS HAVE TRIED IT ALL,,,,,,I KNOW IN FACT IF I HEARD OF SUBOXONE BEFORE I WOULD OF TRIED IT.. THANK GOD FOR MY GIRLFRIEND WHO GOT ME SEEKING THIS OUTPATIENT TREATMENT,’WHATS IN MY LIFE NOW,IS AA, MEETINGS, A SPONSOR, MY FMAILY, NEW FRIENDS,I MEAN NEW,,,,AND MY HEALTH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IM DOWN TO 2 MGS AND 1 MG IN THE PM,,,,,AND PLAN TO STAY THIS WAY,,,,,,,,I AM AN OPIATE ADDICT AND ITS DISEASE, SO I WILL TREAT IT THEY WAY I FIND MY PROTOCOL….THANK GOD FOR SUBOXONE…….PEACE
Hey, my name is Kim. Love this website. Went into rehab bc new doc. doesn’t prescribe meds I’m on. Clinic put me on Suboxone. Tapering is horrible. Must not be doing it right. Never felt this pain before. What do I do. Thanks.
I used oxycontin for 3 yrs and have been on suboxone for a year now. I work at a really high energy job as a hairstylist. Its a huge salon and I have a huge clientele and work 10 hour days with no breaks straight through. Entertaining people all day long really wears you out. To my point….i really want to get off the sub. So how long do you think I will need to take off of work. I am so scared. I only get one week paid vaca and I doubt my boss with let me off more than that… Will one week be ok? FUCK!! i hate myself for getting me into this shit. Please help.
I am on 2mg to 4mg of subutex a day.I started on subs ,and I took about 16mgs a day. I want to get off everything and today I started breaking my 2mg pills in half. Do you have any advice about how to do this the best way? I just really need some support.
Crystal
ok, I found this website yesterday and I liked what I read. I have been on SUb for 4 yrs. Ppl sometimes look at me in question because Ive been on it for so long, but 5 months into it I found out I was pregnant. Back then remind you suboxone was unheard of ..no one knew what it was nor then docs. So I was kicked out and was told to go back to the methadone clinic. After 2 years and a w/d of 14 days (also taking 12 mg of subs daily during my w/d) didn’t want to do that, but 5 days later I went to the methadone clinic took 30 mg but later that day I found a doc that would help. They first started me on subutex , but I didn’t like the way they made me feel-very fatigued. so I was switched back to suboxone, and on a slow tapering process was down to 2 mg when I had my son. My baby doc also knew and knew how good I was doing and didn’t want me to go all the way off before I had my child so I had him the next day after I took my last 2 mg suboxone. I took him home 2 days later-no withdrawals from him, he was fine. I even got a call from the makers of Suboxone asking how I did and if he went through withdrawals, and I think that helped, bc no one wants to have to give their baby methadone. So I am back on suboxone but Ive been through alot as well and I feel wonderful right now and is going thru college and want to grad before I ever come off or down. I just wanted to tell all mothers-to-be out there if your afraid suboxone will hurt them I don’t think so. Mines going on 3 and he’s great. No problems with anything. And if a doc tells you their going to cut you off at a certain point-CHANGE DOCS-dont do it until ur ready .bc if your not ready more then likly your relapse. be strong were all out there that can relate…
My dr told me to jump off of 4 mg. He also gave me nucynta to take every 8 hrs to help with pain and withdrawals. It’s some kind of new opiate. Of course I’m having to take it more to keep me from having withdrawals. To give some background, the dr started me on subs cause I’ve had severe pelvic pain issues that weren’t being helped with any narco. Wad even taking cotyns at one point. I don’t chase the high. I just need pain management but have a high tollerance. So back to my question. Will it affect me being able to quit subs if I’m taking another narcotic to basically replace it? I’m scared I’m already addicted to the new stuff.
Crazy thing is I got off subs last year without even realizing it. I didn’t know they were addictive and just took them every few days and then just stopped one day. Boy do I wish I could do that now.
Well day four has come and went, last night was intermittent sleep but popped a kolonopin after my usual wake up at 3am…Sleepy sleepy (til 9am) This withdrawl sucks but it does not even hold a candle to oxys or heroin. I picked up some melatononin at the hippi store and I am gonna try to use that for my sleep tonight. My moods are flip flop as are my chills but it is tolerable. I can already feel the dope fog lifting and life coming bach…actually caught myself humming a Doors song. I know there is a long way to go but im gonna make it…Even found a 40mg oxy today while packing to move and i threw it down the toilet, I then dry heaved for a while but now im ok lol. Im excited for this new chapter in my life. Must stay positive and remember I DID THIS TO MYSELF…For every action there is a reaction. I knew what I was doing and knew it would come to this so I gotta suck it up and keep going. I will write again tomorrow. Peace.
Well, I thought I was gonna get out of this scott free…Until last night lol this is day three and I definitely feel some withdrawls last night/today. Nothing intense like coming off of oxys but feels more like It is the tail end of a oxy withdrawl. I can already feel some of my head coming back but I know its still gonna get worse but Im not counting on that nor focusing on it like I would always have done while coming off oxys. I am excited for this next chapter in my life and cant wait to be free of the burden these opiates hold, and I know that this school I am about to do is going to be challenging, but worthwhile. And nothing compared to the three months in SD 10 yrs ago. I will keep posting to let you know how its going, it definitely helps me to just open up about it. Thanks for your response. Semper Fi
Bob,
The slower you can go the better… I think it is more mental when you jump off of suboxone at 2mg and or less cause either way it’s going to fucking suck… I still suggest taking your time though. Since you can’t taper but you’re down that low and you’re on a time schedule… Look at it this way; get off the suboxone now; you’ve got something that’ll take up your time and kick your ass back into gear (ie. the military). Kick this shit now, go thru the hard stuff and get ready to roll. I don’t give any background of myself on here but I understand your position or can relate (Semper Fi). Getting focused, getting busy, staying busy and or getting you’re ass kicked backed into operation mode will do the trick…. (funny shit)…. You’ll be ok dude. Bob, you actually have a rough road but a way out of this….look at it that way.
Brian
SuboxoneTaper.com
By the way, I am a 31yr old male weighing in at a whopping 185lbs
Hey man whats up, interesting site here. I have been sitting at my computer for a couple hours between here and suboxonetalkzone…I have a question that I was hoping you might help me with. First I will tell a little about myself.
My name is Bob and I have been an opiate addict since I was 19 yrs old. I started with nubain (nalbuphine) and after sobering up from that went straight to heroin. After a couple years of heroin (3 gram habit per day tops) I quit COLD TURKEY…horrible experience….Well that wasnt enough, I relapsed with oxycontin / methadone on and off for the next 5 yrs, until nrehab in 2007. I was clean until jan 2010 when I took a quarter of a suboxone to see what it would feel like…I loved it and have been taking it pretty much everyday (buying it black market) the max i have taken in one day is 8mg but usually it is just 4mg….Now I am down to 2mg a day and want to stop. Is a taper necessary or do you think I can just stop? I (like everyone) want as little withdrawl as possible. I am getting ready to go to a military like school on May 24th and it is gonna suck if the first couple weeks are gonna suck even worse than I am sure they already will. I know I am an idiot to wait this long and dont be afraid to tell me this….I just get so tired when I stop and I have been afraid of the withdrawl…now I have no choice and this is coming no matter what….What do you think I can expect?? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks! –Bob
Right Now,it’ll be 2mg a week.
I’ve been off my 400 mg hydrocodone daily dose to 8 mg Suboxone now for a year. It’s febr. I’ll be back in the doughnut hole in a month and a half. I’m on disability right now and feel it too will be gone soon. I’ve come along way in a year. I went through and extensive outpatient with the hospital for 8 months. I’m attending AA on a regular basis and catching myself on old behaviors and addict thinking.I can’t afford another 7 months of paying by the pill batch again. Still feel like and addict . I don’t want to feel the pain of a sudden stop. Granted I’ve done it. Not going to do it now.I picked up my Month supply.60.I talked to my Doctor last year and told him, this year , when going into the doughnut again. I want to taper down. And how do you do it. How do you taper. He said by 2mg.
Ive allready tried for extra help through SSI, but make to much. So I’ve made a plan to taper down 2 mg a week. It may change to 2 weeks when I get down to a single 8 mg.
But I’m starting. I’m so tired of having to plan my life around it. I feel I’m strong enough. Mentally,Spiritually and I’m going to pick up some extra walking to help drive the toxin out.I admire what you’ve done.I’m hoping for some help.
I am on day 4 off the suboxone, it isnt that bad yet because of the half-life of suboxone. I started at 16mgs and weened myself down to 2mg over a 6month period. Like I said tho it is day 4, i feel shitty but that is expected from any strong drug u take for a long period of time. I am lucky enough to have some benzo’s to help calm me and sleep at nite when it gets to be too much. any1 going through my situation or goin to b soon just stay strong, it wont kill you and in a few wks ill be completley clean, im very very excited and thats what keeps me going. email if u like to swap info..eric22602@yahoo.com
Thank you. That’s all I have to say. Everyone’s just looking for that little ray of hope. It’s there. You just got to get past all the other crap. People only tell you “You can’t do it” because they don’t have the courage to try.
You CAN do it. We all have to heal sometime.
what a site the sub did allow me to feel normal and not high.The most important part was to paticipate in a recovery program and change all old habbits.I completely love the AA program of recovery even tho I am an opiate user (was) . My family life as a father and a son has returned and do not want to loose that again its been three yrs on sub . wish I could take time off of work when I get up enough nerve to stop , but the most important thing is to keep things a day at a time perspective.Wish we could get together as our own group for meetings and help each other like a Sub Annomous group.
By the way forgot to mention thanks alot for his site and all of this info.
Ha!! Fucking halarious. I’ve seen that shit everywhere, trying to get some info.
Stacie….sorry about this whole deal but, calling it as it is…. “just a bad situation”… unfortunately no suggestions. Talk to a doctor….not sure what could be worse, the stress of the w/d’s on the baby or the drug itself.
Bad fucking situation to be in and by no means am I pointing any fingers… I know how powerful this drug is and reason or decision just doesn’t come into factor no matter what when your body needs what it “thinks it needs”. Wish you the best.
Brian
Hello.
I also need help. I am 11 weeks pregnant and am taking 1 mg per day.
I’m down from 4mg to 2mg.
How long should i stay on 1 mg before i stop completely? I don’t want the baby to experience withdrawals.
Melissa,
I was on it almost 3 years and only tapered then eventually got off it successfully. Alot of people who don’t know shit will talk alot of it. I was probably ok at the 2 year mark; not only did I change my whole lifestyle, but got alot of the good qualities back that kept me going. I did opt to stay on it though cause I just didn’t want to mess with something that was not broken. I didn’t get high off the suboxone, it did nothing for me, except…make me feel 1000% normal and like myself and also kept me at a zero level of thinking about relapsing…which I NEVER did.
When you’re ready, if ever to get off it…you’ll know. I only thought to myself with a bit of common sense that being on something, anything, for to long probably (no scientific backing here) is not a great thing. It could be ok…but I would rather be on the safe side…and the biggest thing like I said… I was ready anyway.
The only side effect I have not read about which I have noticed a month or so after I got off it… I can watch hours of like “funny goat” videos on youtube….becoming a problem… JK of course.
Brian
Suboxone Taper
Hello, You are soo right! You made these examples sound so funny, I laughed out loud. I have been on suboxone for 16 months. Suboxone allowed me to get my life back. I really wanted to stop my opiate abuse. I thought I would die from my addiction. After several tries to quit on my own and even a short time at a methadone clinic,I went to a psychiatrist who works with addicts. I was open and honest with him about my addiction. With suboxone I felt normal again, and was able to focus on getting my life in order. I am now wanting to taper off the suboxone. I hope that coming off of it will be successfull.
I would still get the giraffe outfit…. The long the taper to better. Anyone who tells you “You should get on and off that stuff ASAP….”… Only want to use again; weak asses if you ask me. Change…. take your time….and hold on cause it does blow but it will all be ok in the end.
Brian
thanks for the info.
i’m getting ready to jump from 1mg.
down from 24mg in a couple mos.
at 1 mg for last 5ish mos.
glad to hear i don’t need to buy taht giraffe suit.
thanks again, i was looking for a site like this.
will post how it goes