No Withdrawals From Suboxone
Before I rant; keep in mind suboxone is a “good” thing…if used correctly. I used it to get off of oxy and vics and to cut off the lifestyle I was living completely. It worked for me. Been off the sub for a long while now and for me; I just don’t have any desire, let alone any cravings for any opiates.
NO WITHDRAWALS FROM SUBOXONE WHEN YOU TAPER….
People ask me about my taper and for additional suggestions. What I have or had written down in my Taper 101 post was my final taper, the literal last step. It was not my first attempt to taper down to like zero before I jumped off. Before I took this final decline, taper or what ever you want to f-ing call it; I went up, down, sideways, couple donkey kicks and so on when it came to my dosing…and the reason of course was…cause I didn’t want to go thru withdrawals.
My Doctor, who in a way was just great because she just went with what I wanted to do…was also being though a patronizing hypocrit, but in a nice way I guess. “Brian, you have been on the suboxone along time now, you have been at 1mg or 2mg a day for a while…” She goes on to say with her heavy educated middle eastern accent (that was kind of hot and so was she) “Brian….see, you are down to such a small dose of the suboxone that it is all mental, you won’t feel any withdrawal symptons especially at the dose you are at, it’s all in your head, but what ever you want to do, you tell me”. “What ever I want to do….”…*lol* “Well, lets see, I want to rent a UH-1 Huey and fly around Southern California and or Garden Grove with a loud speaker and firecrackers…” (I know a little out there and I am kidding…I think)
I thought it was funny that my Doctor asked my girlfriend to come in with me on d-day minus whatever it was (which my gf had gone with me before); I think though at this time it was more to give me that push that I needed cause really I wanted to stop and get off the suboxone but I did need a little knudge or a 5 pound steel candle holder to the forehead. I had some questions though, that I had asked a hundred times before but I was a little more direct and specific this time. So I asked the following (or we did).
- “Are you serious, because I have tapered so much I might not feel ANYTHING, like NO withdrawals, nothing”?…She answered “Yes Brian…at the dose you are at (which was like .25mg in the am and .25mg in the evening or even less) the suboxone shouldn’t even be working anymore or doing anything for you”.
- “How many of your patients have successfuly quit suboxone and have any of them complained about withdrawals”? Her answer to me was “Alot of my patients have started and stopped the suboxone and I haven’t had any major complaints yet”.
- My girlfriend jumped in and asked “Out of those people that have successfuly stopped suboxone, how many have relapsed on either opiates or the suboxone and or have stopped and you haven’t heard from again”… OH SHIT…DING, check mate on that questions. My Doctor was like a deer caught in the headlights of life ”Uh, times up, we talk again soon ok, call me if you need anything”…(Like what would I need? A tranquelizer gun for myself when I jump off the suboxone?) Fucking hillarious,… I thought. I literally laughed to myself and thought ”Oh boy…Im fucked”.
To be told to your face that there is ZERO withdrawals from suboxone is just wrong in the literal and sarcastic sense. It’s like aguing the color of the sky “The sky is blue”…. “No the sky is Black”…. “NO, the SKY IS BLUE!”…and so on… The sky of course is blue but, put into a dark room with sleep deprivation listening to Journey for a couple years and being told “The sky is black and drives a 87 Nissan Pathfinder and it will pay all your bills”…. you’ll eventually believe it. It’s the BS with a benefit kind of thinking; if I am getting the milk for free, who cares where the cow shits (*L*). My point in being is that you’re gonna want to believe what your doctor says even when everyone else says the opposite, even by sure experience. Bottom line, suboxone is a great tool to put it in neutral stress free and cruise….but cruise knowing you are going down a hill that either way your brakes are working at 10% and you’re fucked when you hit that wall at the bottom. It’ll suck either way, but it’s better than the unknown rollercoaster ride of opiates.
Unfortunately, you can minimize the damage of the suboxone withdrawal syndromes by tapering but it’s like equivicating it to a full nuclear strike versus a small tactical one, either ways it’s gonna be a f-ing mess. There is no way a doctor, good or bad can look you in the face and tell you that “If taken exactly as I am going to prescribe this and going by my comic book dosing guide and BMW Owners Manual, you will feel no withdrawals or maybe just a slight discomfort for a day or so”… If have a cool Doctor who will work with you and “LISTEN” to you, they’ll take what I suggest you say with a grain of salt, if they suck and have a stuffed dolphin on the wall and a squirrel on their head it might not go so well…either way…who cares… Tell them the following if in the event you are given this line of shit from the aforementioned ”You sir/mam are full of shit…..but…what can you give or precribe me beofore I jump off the suboxone to put down a large elephant for about 12-14 days”….
I hope everyone understands that 1/2 of this is true and 1/2 of this is satire or more elegantly put “a fucking joke” to a certain degree. I tried to have fun with this so you, like me wouldn’t stress from all the bullshit sites out there either telling you “you’re gonna be totally fine and running a marathon 2 days after you quite suboxone” or “You’re fucked and it’s all over, join AA and find the Easter Bunny… On a serious note in regards to the Doctors; if you are going to prescribe something, know what the fuck it is and what the side effects are or at the least tell people what to expect. Granted it is a GREAT new line of hope when it comes to prescription aids to help people with opiate dependency; the drug is on the up and up but the doctors are on the dumb and blind train it seems…alot.
No Withdrawals from Suboxone?
Yes, you will go thru some kind of withdrawals and either way they will suck… If you do taper, it can be a hell of alot better though and it feel just like the flu (bad flu for a while) versus Hell revisited.
This whole post, info or whatever is in response to alot of e-mails asking me if there was a way to get off of suboxone “withdrawal free”. From my experience and countless others that have contacted me, regarding this question…the answer is “No, you can’t walk Scott free…it’ll suck” but you can atleast contain the damage if you take your time and taper slow. Remember though why you took suboxone, understand that YOU made this choice (with help from family or on your own)… and if you got your life back on track… THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING point… So yes, it’ll be shitty, but hopefully it’ll be the last straw for you and you can walk away from this whole experience… I did and have. This was updated (9/4/09) and I have been good since 08 with out even the slightest thought of even looking down the opiate road again.
Hoped this helped even though it was depressing and not very positive…
“Better to be prepaired then un-aware”
Brian
Suboxone Taper
P.S.
There are alot of Doctors out there, like mine that just kicked ass and worked with me. I look back and realize my doctor told me what “I WANTED TO HEAR, cause I probably would have just went on”. I want to thank my doctor here in So-California and also Doctor Jeff Junig (www.suboxonetalkzone.com) who helped me ALOT. Just a great guy…and friend…and I mean this guy was a friend to me and still is.
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sara- thank you! I just read about these horrific wd-s no sleep for weeks and flailing body limbs. I think I almost made it through wds from the vics/precs before but after a week – as soon as I ‘could’ I bought more. And honestly it wasn’t as bad either- I did use a little something to help but the worst was feeling like I had the flu and not sleeping great- if that is all I can expect- I can do it. anyway – I plan to taper to nothing and then move on… I have given myself permission to take the time I need as long as I’m pogressing and enlisted my husband. He just wants “me” back – again “normal ” like we say- funny that this begins to feel normal but only a step or two better from the pills- I mean a lot better but still fighting it. So the fact that we are all fighting this rather than full on pill use is a step in the right direction. Give your self a break and permission to feel good about what you have accomplished so far. Sara- I don’t judge anyone- I think showing your daughter that a life without feeling trapped and possibly terrified is a life worth living and that you fought to show her you were worth it will go along way- sometimes those are the hardest choices to make- you are worth it and once you are “you ” again things will fall in place with life. Then you can look at the job – the ex-husband or whatever- I’m not trying to be a therapist but for me the biggest positive that came out of all this is allowing myself to feel good about myself and do things for myself- being married with three kids and a full time job and going back to school for the third degree- why??? I don’t ever feel I’m worth it- but I am – I began excercising again, don’t feel guilty about getting hair done, shopping or massages- i need to feel good about myself to fight that depression and whatevr else lead me down this path! I have all I need here- and with you guys for support- I know I can lick it! wishing you al lthe best today… enjoy your weekend!
Lynn, sub7, everyone. This is what I honestly BELIEVE and KNOW. First– a lot of the crap we’ve read online is, well– just dramatic heightend CRAP. Everybody is so scared of the wd ‘s. First off, stay on one site, and stay away from the others. Honestly, I’ve went off sub after a year and a half. It was NOTHING like getting off of a 10-15 750mg vicodins. For me, and yes, we are all different, it is lack of energy and depression. My depression now is bad enough, that’s the only reason why I’m scared and mentally stuck. Between this, my divorce, my only daughter left for college, and stuck in a job i hate (well, i dont hate my job, i hate the co i work for and the stress and bs that goes w it), i just felt my whole purpose of life is over. For the record, i divorced my husband. I didn’t want to, but he is an alcoholic. I stick by him, but he doesn’t want help & made our lives hell. I Did it for my daughter, and me. I would never get better w my prob w his toxic behaviour. Trust me, i tried everything. Anyways, when i quit before, i had no physical sickness. It took me a good week and i was feeling better. The hardest part is rebuilding that serotonin level & learning to live a “normal” (there’s that word again!) life. Our brains litterally need to be rewired. We do not know right away how to live w out that extra boost. It sucks, but as David Grohl says: ITS TIMES LIKE THESE WE KEARN TO LIVE AGAIN…” Don’t be scared, i think its more of a nervous feeling. Nervous of the unknown. Nervous we won’t be able to get up and go. Yes, I’m nervous. I’m mad. But, sonehow we will all get there. And, LYNN– if u do go ten days without, like i said, no energy and depression. Ya got to force yourself out of bed, and ALWAYS take a shower, do your hair and make up, cause if u sit around in your pj’s all day, u will feel worse. Go for walks. Go to one of your favorite parks, cemetaries, reflect on this, and every morning, ask God for the stregnth for each day, and at the end of each day, thank him. Go to NA meetings. Take a multi vitamin & a super B. Ton and TONS OF WATER. flush out those toxins. And Ill check k in tomorrow. …
lynne- actually for me it is the opposite- i had such rituals with my pills- 3 in the morning beofre i got in the shower- 3 when I arrived at work 3 at recess – 3 at lucnh 3 when i got home so it is ingrained in me- I still feel that urge and it bugs me- I don’t hink of pills but of taking something- I’m just thinking about it more at work_ I’m usually busier at home than work so I will find myself not thinking- I wish I had it the opposite way… I feel trapped by sub.. I feel like the wds will be worse from what I’ve read and it keeps me terrified – I will be thinking of you- i t just amazes me that hese doctors just cut people off knowing or maybe not knowing how horrible people wil lbe feeling.. scary! I am ready to taper..I am excited about a sober life- except not giving up my wine…margarita – cold beer! have a great weekend! Good luck ya’all
It was a long tough week, def. gonna get worse before it gets better (in my opinion) I still have not been able to get into a doctor that will help me right away, as of right now I have an appt on the 29th and waiting on a few places to call me back. I have one 8mg left which I will make last as long as possible. I have read online something about a “3 day rule” where anyone can go to any Dr and that Dr can supply them with 3 days worth of suboxone if the medication is kept at the Dr’s office, they can’t prescribe it though. Has anyone heard of this? I have found that when I’m at work I don’t feel as bad as I do when I’m at home, probably because I’m too busy at work to think about it, does anyone else feel that way?
Would like to wish everyone here success with this …had a long hard day in bed and all ur post helped make feel alittle easier going thru this crap..scared..but better…I thought my warrior days were over when I stopped shopping in alleys and boarded up houses…looks like I’m doing the same thing only there’s chairs to wait in and the main guy now wears a suit instead of gold chains…
N thank u subuser7..i called my doc and he refuses to put me back on…already filled my spot..whatever that means..so i’ m taking ur advice and called another doc supplier and seeing him 2morrow at a nice new hefty price…i was a junkie for 12years and finally cut the s* it myself and had 6 clean years…i slipped and someone told me to take suboxin and i wouldn’t slip again…now i’m 5 years into a dark nitemare…i’m so sad and so awake its now at 4am
oops there were wds with it- I hate not having spell check
can you tell him you aren’t ready after reading all the posts and need a set number of 2mg strips or something so you can taper over a set period of time? like 3 weeks to a month? I’m sorry I don’t have any advice other than to talk to your doctor and ask for some more and put yourself through a set taper- maybe then you could taper to almost nothing over a couple weeks rather than jumping ship cold turkey- sorry but it is just another doc- not understanding what they are giving us- my doc never told me it was addicitive or their were wds with it! makes me mad!
Grammer fixes…don’t know why word successful is there…doesn’t seem like too much of a success rite now….also feel the withdrawals coming…been 30 hrs since last 1/2 mil. Dose….what should I expect…
Thank u everyone for ur posts…today is my first day without any successful subxn in 5 years..I thought I was unique because I took 1.5 mil a day and my doctor told me its such a low dose he was cutting me off..I tried cutting back lower but my life is so busy I just couldn’t..now reading the post I relize I’m going to struggle just like everyone else and the fear of not being able to perform my everyday business is making me panic..my doc gave me klonpin and told me it would make me feel normal…I already feel the we coming…unsure what to do???any good advice out there????
SavingSara. Congratulations, I am so happy to hear that you are closer to completing your taper than you originally thought. That is awesome news. Charting out your taper is an excellent plan. Good luck and congrats to you on soon turning 40 years young. Please keep us posted on your progress and I will do the same. Stay strong. Sub15
Hi Alonzo, you bring up a very good point and something I have considered as well. Being at a low dose and having a certain level of awareness is still much better than taking 16mg or 8 mg a day. If I cannot taper completely before the baby comes, I would rather continue to taper slow as you suggest rather than risk all the progress I am making now. Also, congratulations Alonzo on your baby as well. That is awesome! It is interesting that our pasts are so similar. It is comforting some how to know there are others who’s history is similar to mine. Congratulations again on the baby and on the successful taper so far!! I know you will complete it!! Lastly Alonzo, what is a liquid taper and how does it work? I am not familiar with it, but curious. Thanks!
Oops didn’t finish my thought–I mean I may still be on another year with a slow taper, but being at low dosages I don’t experience the nods I had at 14 so I plan on enjoying life with my baby.
Sub 1570. My wife and I had our baby on 19-Mar-12. You and I have virtually the same history with full agonists and sub. I was on 14 a day then two years ago worked down to 8 a day, then in December worked down to 4 a day. There has been some ups in down in dosages, however since Sunday I dropped to 2.75 a day. My point in all this is that although I too wanted to be completely off for my baby, I’m dropping slowwwwww. . . . I mean I plan on droppin’ in mcg’s before I jump–liquid taper if I have to.
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Hey– I’m only 4 years older than sub15. I’m 39, still in my 30′s.. Lol, just had to point that out. My goal is to hopefully jump before 40th (omg) b day. That’s 22 weeks. Hey! U guys just gave me the idea & realazation that i need to chart out the rest of my taper. I didn’t realize i was that close. Been up w,/ nothing yet but my morning SAM-e + vitamin B. Its hard Being on afternoon shift & doing this. Just because i dose before work, and later, 2 2mg, one at 2pm, other at 9pm. When I’m off, I’m up early which mixes up my schedule. Gotta move though. Not giving up.
Thank you guys so much for all of your support and encouraging words!! I can’t agree with you more SS on your points about the importance of planning, supplements and physical activity. I will also definitely google the recommended searches and of course keep you posted on my progress. It sounds like you and Sub7 are both in a very good place as well and just waiting to take the big leap. I totally understand and just remember, everyone at their own pace, everybody in their own time. Again, it took me 5 years and if I wasn’t going to be a father, I might have been ok to hang on a while longer. Also again for what it’s worth, I have completely turned my entire life around in the past few years and I owe a great deal of the success I have achieved to the stabilizing power of Suboxone. I read a great deal of negative posts about Suboxone, but personally I just can’t hate on it because it has been a major factor in so many good things in my life. But, I owe a debt for that prison sentence being postponed all these years, and for me, it is time to pay it. I hope I don’t have to pay too dearly. Thank you again so very much for your responses. I have never posted an internet comment before in my life on any topic, but I’ll tell ya, it really does help to talk to you people. I can’t thank you enough for your support. Stay strong.
Sub 15. — I feel sooooo much better knowing you are a man, meaning not PG!!! Phew.. Anyways, well first– Congrats on your baby. You sound like u are in the right set of mind to do and BEAT THIS! Don’t the subs get old? I’m at 3.5 years, down to 4mg a day (stuck) need to kick it in gear, here
So– you are in a pretty great yet scary situation. You sound ready, so a determine mind, plus planning, and knowing once you’re a parent, its non stop for 18 + years! So– id say, do it. Prepare your taper chart, even if u have to get a 28 (monthly) prescription box and lay/prep it out. Check out some sites about natural things to do/take that will help w withdraw and depression, lack of energy. I’m a true believe and know personally, a lot of this helps. A multi vitamin, super complex B, omega 3 (amino acid fish oil) are 3 main supplements that we really need. Diet – high protein, no red meat or sugars. I Found SAM-e helps me tremendously (400mg a day w/ vit b super). You can also google 5HTP & L tyrosine. These are the esstentials our minds need to rebuild serotonin. Walk, I ride a bike every morning before work, go to the gym
Most and MOST– TAPER RIGHT, drop 25% every 5-7 days. It sounds like your tsper is not that long, so remember u don’t want to be in full blown WD when the baby is here. Plan, plan, plan. Also, google AMINO ACID THERAPY for addiction. It explains a lot! And don’t read all the crazy stories on the web about HOW AWFUL IT IS. Remember, everyone is diff. I got off before, was very tired, not motivated, by 7 days, i was okay, on a roll. Little Did i know then, how i just got thru the hardest part, and cont w/ subs as soon as i got my next prescriotiin. Damit. That’s why its so important to be educated on this, unlike me tears ago…
You can do it! We will help u, be here, and u just may do OKAY, cause you have something, a true miracle to live for.
Sub1570- good luck- seems like most of us here are “older” I would like to hit my 42nd bday clean and sober but I’m moving slow with the sub taper for two reasons- to be successful and I don’t want a relapse..makes me nervous a little- I mean usually I don’t think about pills at all but somtimes I catch myself dreaming about them – kinda crazy! i think 6 weeks is doable! good luck and keep us posted
Hi SavingSara. Thank you for the post and I’m so sorry for any confusion……… but I am a man. Hahaha!! My wife is pregnant and we are having our first child. The point of my post is the same, however. I want to fully experience this new and most important chapter of my life and on subs I don’t truly “feel alive”. Although subs have given me a life back, I want to start this part of my life truly clean and clear of mind.
Last night I cut a few films in half and today I am transitioning to 4mg per day. As I stated, I have about 6 weeks to taper and I’m starting at 4mg per day. Of course I am fearful of the wd, but I am trying to stay focused on doing it for my kid. It’s just that I have been on subs (and therefore haven’t even felt or had to worry about a withdrawals) for 5 years and the thought of having to deal with it now after all these years is just the worst. And dealing with wd now in a 35 year old body is much different from dealing with it in a 25 year old body. Anyway, I’m just venting. Thanks for listening and for the response, I really appreciate it. I am gonna try and taper in 6 weeks, any advice or encouragement welcome. Thanks!
Sub1570– Have you talked w/ your Dr about this? I cannot give advice on the part w/ you being pg. & tapering, the effects, etc. If you are on maternity leave, have a supportive family, I would definately A: Talk w/ your Dr about the safety of your child and you being on sub & tappering. B: If your Dr says its safe to taper in 6 weeks, start tapering under the recemended advice & schedule from your Dr, and sleep, rest, lots of fliuds, go for walks, improve your diet (natural protiens & raw greens + raimbow colors of the fruit each day in a week help improve energy & depression) and really, AS LONG AS ITS SAFE, WHATEVER YOUR DR SAYS, TRY TO LOOK AT THIS PART OF YOUR LIFE AS A WINDOW to break free of the cycle. Once your baby is here, your life is non stop, and no more open windows. Idk what to say, w/ the whole pg part, its hard to give any personal advice… besides that, I’ve been on subs for a long time, like u, in opiate free, have no cravings, but found its prooven, long term use causes depression. I’m fighting depessiin now more than anything
Like i said, talk w/ your dr how safe a 6 week taper would be. Then, make a plan, come back on & let us know what your Dr says. Maybe this is your time to turn it all around. If i had 6 weeks if staying home, no respinsabilities, id jump all over that.
not me- I would try to take as little as possible like the comment below atleast half and half if not cut the strip into fourths, 6ths or 8ths- just a little bit will make the wd go away or at least lessen… how many of us going through wd could take just one pill to make ( or tide) you over to you get a fill- to prevent you from vomiting or whatever not completely stop wd but lessen a little for atleast a couple hours? good luck…
Not ME 1/2 of a sub under tounge dissolve Next day 1/2 if it doesnt help call your doctor.
Hi all. I have never posted before but I keep reading about how therapeutic reading and sharing in blogs can be, so here goes. After using opiates for all of my adolescent and adult life, I was put on suboxone therapy at 30 years old. I am now 35 and have been on subs for all of the last 5 years. I have absolutely turned my life completely around in those 5 years. I have a very successful career, rebuilt my personal life, remarried and I am happy to say about to have my first child. However, as many of you know, sub therapy, despite all the great things it has done for me, is not truly “living”. My baby will be here in July and I want to truly experience this part of my life. Opiates have taken enough from me and I refuse to let them take this most important and special part of my life from me as well. I want to be truly clean and clear of mind in that delivery room. I have about 6 weeks to accomplish that goal, if possible. Although I have been on suboxone for 5 years, my dosage was all over the place, depending on the doctor. For the past year at least, I have been on 8mgs of film per day (give or take a bad day or 10 here and there where I take 16mg). I need to taper as quickly and wisely as possible over the next 6 weeks. Any advice or encouragement welcome. My heart says its for your child and you can stop for that. But my mind has experienced tapers and withdrawals far, far too many times before to think that this is not going to be difficult. Thanks for listening.
I am exhausted.
Where are most of you actually dropping off at? 0.25mg? I have to begin work on Thursday and my insurance is up! I am taking .5mg a day and I’m kind of curious as to if a lower dose makes the withdrawl quicker or just less severe for the same amount of time? This sucks. I might be able to find more but i’d have to go to the streets again and I’m not sure its worth it? I can’t miss the job.
That was actually fun reading despite the fact that like most opiate addicts it rambled on and on. The sky does drive a pathfinder and on occasion pays one’s cell phone bill, but only if they aren’t chronic texters.
Hey Val, SavingSara, Subuser7, etc..
I just wanted to check in to see how everyone is doing?? Seems like the tapering is going well, and the motivation is still there! Maybe a little incentive for kicking the subs-It can be done-Ive made it 1 month today! Its been a battle for sure, and Im still dealing with some things but life is getting better.
I stopped taking sam-e cause it started making me feel weird. I also cut out all my supplements except I am still taking a multi-vitamin, energy, and recovery drinks. I think my liver/stomach couldn’t keep up with all the stuff I was taking, it was getting pretty awful. I was running to the bathroom every hour. Now that I have stopped taking all that stuff I feel much better. For the positive side, that icky eery feeling I’ve had post wd is pretty much gone.
I feel like it’s been getting better weekly opposed to daily. Going back to work at first was the worst. Im still struggling a little bit during the long shifts but it bareable now. I guess Im in the clear now and can function, just need a little motivation. I too have bills stacked and havent even opened them. Iv been trying to go out and have fun, I guess to keep my mind in a good place. Its been sunny out too, which has surely helped my mood.
Anyway, I hope all of you the best, and pray to God you will all make it. These drugs have ruined the last several years of my life, and I want change so badly. So my determination and will is what got me here. I truely believe that tapering is the key, but then your gonna need a plan before jumping. Do whatever you think you need to do to get ready. Exercising, Meal plans, Supplements, Movies, Etc.
Well, Im gonna walk away for a while, but I will be thinking about everybody. This website has truly been a gift, whether its in search of info or just pouring your heart out. Its good to know you’re not the only one going thru this kind of hardship, and that others are here for support. I’ll check back in a week or two but it’s just something I need to do for myself. I cant keep dwelling on this, and need to move forward. So, see ya soon… and Best of Luck! -S
Hey! I have been taking pain pills atleast 6 on good day and 10 on bad day. I am losing everything my house and maybe my husband I am a good person just addicted to something that does not evebn give me the energy I started it for . I take to stop the pain….I have a friend who went through this and she has sub..she sent me ONE FILM with no instructions but told me that I could quit on this ONE ..is this true? She told me to cut in pieces? HELP
I’ve been doing ok, I called my doctor yesterday and explained to him that I am on a 2 week waiting list for another program and he said there was nothing he could do for me, I’m going to call my PCP today and make an appointment, he does prescribe suboxone, he does a 3 month program for it, which I have already been in before I started seeing this other Dr. and when that program ended he didn’t even help me find another one and didn’t taper me off what he prescribed me (2 8mg/per day) but hopefully he can help me. Suboxone really did help me get off opiates but right now I feel the same way I did when I was using and I never wanted to feel this way again. I haven’t touched opiates in over 2 years and I don’t plan on it, luckily my friend was/is able to help me out when I really need it, so maybe by the time they get to me on the waiting list I can start at a low dose and be off them completely by the end of this year. I want to feel the way I felt before opiates came into my life 12 years ago and being on suboxone I kind of feel that way but I don’t want to have to take anything to be that person.
Hello all… I’m at three pinchs, which makes it about 1.5 mg. I feel depression creeping back slowly and I have no energy to do any extra, like going thru bills/junk mail. The pile is piling up quick. Just don’t feel like going thru it. I get home from work and I just want to put pj’s on and watch TV til bedtime. I guess I need to get some 5-hour energy. I’m not taking anything else because I don’t want to take any more pills of any kind whatsoever. I know exercise will fix it, but don’t feel like it. I keep saying, I’ll work on that pile of stuff tomorrow… ugh! There are a lot of other factors contributing, but I won’t go there. Too many to list, but the biggest one is dealing with having filed bankruptcy and letting our house go. We are still living it in and just waiting for the “kick out time” so that plays a huge factor. I’m not thinking of pills so that is the huge + !! I thought I’d never get to that point where I didn’t desire pills. So I should be very happy where I am. Once we get moved and start our new chapter in life, I think that will be the major turning point and I will be very happy. Praying for my sub buddies!!! Have a good week. I keep thinking about “never give up on giving up” =)
Good job, sub7– I really understand why you have to take it slow… I tapered okay/no probs to 4mg-2. Remember though, we are talking 2 yrs + of 16-24!!! (,I even think i hit 32 at one point, the ceiling…) But, the whole point of going slow is about adjusting to the dose. I learned that clearly myself. I tried to taper real quick from 4mg to 2mg. I believe a lot of ppl get stick around here. Once u hit 2mg, that’s HALF the dose! Think about it… we taper say from 16 to 14, then 14 to 12. We don’t taper 16 to 8 or 14 to 7…???!!! So, for me I went to 2, back up to 4, even screwed up & back to 6, now back at 4… I’ve made it this far. Some how, Ill make it again. Ya’ll will too. I just still CANT STAND THE DEPRESSION I GET FOLLOWING. ITS SO BAD, nothing appeals to me, the clock barely moves. Speaking of clocks, gotta hit the hay. ~Never give up on giving up!~
Just checking in with everyone- did my 2mg taper- now at 14 mgs. a day- had a great weekend with my family and felt good- I didn’t feel anything from the drop- I know it was a little but I am giving myself permission to go slow to be successful and take my time so I feel good- Lynne- How are you feeling! ? Been thinking of you- Sara, Val- what’s up girls? Have a great week ya’all! ha ha
Long weekend for everyone. Ill be on after work… Hope everyone is OK.
I have typed up a few comments that have not shown up on here. Not sure why…. one was a long one too. I think I will submit this now as a test to see if it goes thru…
I’m so glad to hear that- I was so worried that you would be going through that horrific wd all weekend and what about Monday going to work? I think for many of us- our doctors sold us on sub as a safe way to detox or wd from the opiates but what I keep hearing is no one gets told how hard it is to taper or stop taking the sub! I think I could get through a wd eventually from the opiates but to wd from suboxone sounds horrible and dangerous! The docs don’t tell us what we are doing will be just as addicitve and hard on our brains and body! I just can’t wait to be back to “normal” Good luck lynnne! Hang in there