Comments on: No Withdrawals From Suboxone http://suboxonetaper.com Sun, 20 May 2012 05:23:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: SavingSara http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45647 SavingSara Sun, 20 May 2012 00:21:36 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45647 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOjoA18sNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOjoA18sNk

]]> By: subuser7 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45642 subuser7 Sat, 19 May 2012 22:13:34 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45642 sara- thank you! I just read about these horrific wd-s no sleep for weeks and flailing body limbs. I think I almost made it through wds from the vics/precs before but after a week - as soon as I 'could' I bought more. And honestly it wasn't as bad either- I did use a little something to help but the worst was feeling like I had the flu and not sleeping great- if that is all I can expect- I can do it. anyway - I plan to taper to nothing and then move on... I have given myself permission to take the time I need as long as I'm pogressing and enlisted my husband. He just wants "me" back - again "normal " like we say- funny that this begins to feel normal but only a step or two better from the pills- I mean a lot better but still fighting it. So the fact that we are all fighting this rather than full on pill use is a step in the right direction. Give your self a break and permission to feel good about what you have accomplished so far. Sara- I don't judge anyone- I think showing your daughter that a life without feeling trapped and possibly terrified is a life worth living and that you fought to show her you were worth it will go along way- sometimes those are the hardest choices to make- you are worth it and once you are "you " again things will fall in place with life. Then you can look at the job - the ex-husband or whatever- I'm not trying to be a therapist but for me the biggest positive that came out of all this is allowing myself to feel good about myself and do things for myself- being married with three kids and a full time job and going back to school for the third degree- why??? I don't ever feel I'm worth it- but I am - I began excercising again, don't feel guilty about getting hair done, shopping or massages- i need to feel good about myself to fight that depression and whatevr else lead me down this path! I have all I need here- and with you guys for support- I know I can lick it! wishing you al lthe best today... enjoy your weekend! sara- thank you! I just read about these horrific wd-s no sleep for weeks and flailing body limbs. I think I almost made it through wds from the vics/precs before but after a week – as soon as I ‘could’ I bought more. And honestly it wasn’t as bad either- I did use a little something to help but the worst was feeling like I had the flu and not sleeping great- if that is all I can expect- I can do it. anyway – I plan to taper to nothing and then move on… I have given myself permission to take the time I need as long as I’m pogressing and enlisted my husband. He just wants “me” back – again “normal ” like we say- funny that this begins to feel normal but only a step or two better from the pills- I mean a lot better but still fighting it. So the fact that we are all fighting this rather than full on pill use is a step in the right direction. Give your self a break and permission to feel good about what you have accomplished so far. Sara- I don’t judge anyone- I think showing your daughter that a life without feeling trapped and possibly terrified is a life worth living and that you fought to show her you were worth it will go along way- sometimes those are the hardest choices to make- you are worth it and once you are “you ” again things will fall in place with life. Then you can look at the job – the ex-husband or whatever- I’m not trying to be a therapist but for me the biggest positive that came out of all this is allowing myself to feel good about myself and do things for myself- being married with three kids and a full time job and going back to school for the third degree- why??? I don’t ever feel I’m worth it- but I am – I began excercising again, don’t feel guilty about getting hair done, shopping or massages- i need to feel good about myself to fight that depression and whatevr else lead me down this path! I have all I need here- and with you guys for support- I know I can lick it! wishing you al lthe best today… enjoy your weekend!

]]> By: SavingSara http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45629 SavingSara Sat, 19 May 2012 07:04:22 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45629 Lynn, sub7, everyone. This is what I honestly BELIEVE and KNOW. First-- a lot of the crap we've read online is, well-- just dramatic heightend CRAP. Everybody is so scared of the wd 's. First off, stay on one site, and stay away from the others. Honestly, I've went off sub after a year and a half. It was NOTHING like getting off of a 10-15 750mg vicodins. For me, and yes, we are all different, it is lack of energy and depression. My depression now is bad enough, that's the only reason why I'm scared and mentally stuck. Between this, my divorce, my only daughter left for college, and stuck in a job i hate (well, i dont hate my job, i hate the co i work for and the stress and bs that goes w it), i just felt my whole purpose of life is over. For the record, i divorced my husband. I didn't want to, but he is an alcoholic. I stick by him, but he doesn't want help & made our lives hell. I Did it for my daughter, and me. I would never get better w my prob w his toxic behaviour. Trust me, i tried everything. Anyways, when i quit before, i had no physical sickness. It took me a good week and i was feeling better. The hardest part is rebuilding that serotonin level & learning to live a "normal" (there's that word again!) life. Our brains litterally need to be rewired. We do not know right away how to live w out that extra boost. It sucks, but as David Grohl says: ITS TIMES LIKE THESE WE KEARN TO LIVE AGAIN..." Don't be scared, i think its more of a nervous feeling. Nervous of the unknown. Nervous we won't be able to get up and go. Yes, I'm nervous. I'm mad. But, sonehow we will all get there. And, LYNN-- if u do go ten days without, like i said, no energy and depression. Ya got to force yourself out of bed, and ALWAYS take a shower, do your hair and make up, cause if u sit around in your pj's all day, u will feel worse. Go for walks. Go to one of your favorite parks, cemetaries, reflect on this, and every morning, ask God for the stregnth for each day, and at the end of each day, thank him. Go to NA meetings. Take a multi vitamin & a super B. Ton and TONS OF WATER. flush out those toxins. And Ill check k in tomorrow. ... Lynn, sub7, everyone. This is what I honestly BELIEVE and KNOW. First– a lot of the crap we’ve read online is, well– just dramatic heightend CRAP. Everybody is so scared of the wd ‘s. First off, stay on one site, and stay away from the others. Honestly, I’ve went off sub after a year and a half. It was NOTHING like getting off of a 10-15 750mg vicodins. For me, and yes, we are all different, it is lack of energy and depression. My depression now is bad enough, that’s the only reason why I’m scared and mentally stuck. Between this, my divorce, my only daughter left for college, and stuck in a job i hate (well, i dont hate my job, i hate the co i work for and the stress and bs that goes w it), i just felt my whole purpose of life is over. For the record, i divorced my husband. I didn’t want to, but he is an alcoholic. I stick by him, but he doesn’t want help & made our lives hell. I Did it for my daughter, and me. I would never get better w my prob w his toxic behaviour. Trust me, i tried everything. Anyways, when i quit before, i had no physical sickness. It took me a good week and i was feeling better. The hardest part is rebuilding that serotonin level & learning to live a “normal” (there’s that word again!) life. Our brains litterally need to be rewired. We do not know right away how to live w out that extra boost. It sucks, but as David Grohl says: ITS TIMES LIKE THESE WE KEARN TO LIVE AGAIN…” Don’t be scared, i think its more of a nervous feeling. Nervous of the unknown. Nervous we won’t be able to get up and go. Yes, I’m nervous. I’m mad. But, sonehow we will all get there. And, LYNN– if u do go ten days without, like i said, no energy and depression. Ya got to force yourself out of bed, and ALWAYS take a shower, do your hair and make up, cause if u sit around in your pj’s all day, u will feel worse. Go for walks. Go to one of your favorite parks, cemetaries, reflect on this, and every morning, ask God for the stregnth for each day, and at the end of each day, thank him. Go to NA meetings. Take a multi vitamin & a super B. Ton and TONS OF WATER. flush out those toxins. And Ill check k in tomorrow. …

]]> By: subuser7 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45618 subuser7 Sat, 19 May 2012 00:52:47 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45618 lynne- actually for me it is the opposite- i had such rituals with my pills- 3 in the morning beofre i got in the shower- 3 when I arrived at work 3 at recess - 3 at lucnh 3 when i got home so it is ingrained in me- I still feel that urge and it bugs me- I don't hink of pills but of taking something- I'm just thinking about it more at work_ I'm usually busier at home than work so I will find myself not thinking- I wish I had it the opposite way... I feel trapped by sub.. I feel like the wds will be worse from what I've read and it keeps me terrified - I will be thinking of you- i t just amazes me that hese doctors just cut people off knowing or maybe not knowing how horrible people wil lbe feeling.. scary! I am ready to taper..I am excited about a sober life- except not giving up my wine...margarita - cold beer! have a great weekend! Good luck ya'all lynne- actually for me it is the opposite- i had such rituals with my pills- 3 in the morning beofre i got in the shower- 3 when I arrived at work 3 at recess – 3 at lucnh 3 when i got home so it is ingrained in me- I still feel that urge and it bugs me- I don’t hink of pills but of taking something- I’m just thinking about it more at work_ I’m usually busier at home than work so I will find myself not thinking- I wish I had it the opposite way… I feel trapped by sub.. I feel like the wds will be worse from what I’ve read and it keeps me terrified – I will be thinking of you- i t just amazes me that hese doctors just cut people off knowing or maybe not knowing how horrible people wil lbe feeling.. scary! I am ready to taper..I am excited about a sober life- except not giving up my wine…margarita – cold beer! have a great weekend! Good luck ya’all

]]> By: lynne http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45614 lynne Fri, 18 May 2012 20:25:56 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45614 It was a long tough week, def. gonna get worse before it gets better (in my opinion) I still have not been able to get into a doctor that will help me right away, as of right now I have an appt on the 29th and waiting on a few places to call me back. I have one 8mg left which I will make last as long as possible. I have read online something about a "3 day rule" where anyone can go to any Dr and that Dr can supply them with 3 days worth of suboxone if the medication is kept at the Dr's office, they can't prescribe it though. Has anyone heard of this? I have found that when I'm at work I don't feel as bad as I do when I'm at home, probably because I'm too busy at work to think about it, does anyone else feel that way? It was a long tough week, def. gonna get worse before it gets better (in my opinion) I still have not been able to get into a doctor that will help me right away, as of right now I have an appt on the 29th and waiting on a few places to call me back. I have one 8mg left which I will make last as long as possible. I have read online something about a “3 day rule” where anyone can go to any Dr and that Dr can supply them with 3 days worth of suboxone if the medication is kept at the Dr’s office, they can’t prescribe it though. Has anyone heard of this? I have found that when I’m at work I don’t feel as bad as I do when I’m at home, probably because I’m too busy at work to think about it, does anyone else feel that way?

]]> By: claudia http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45603 claudia Fri, 18 May 2012 09:42:57 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45603 Would like to wish everyone here success with this ...had a long hard day in bed and all ur post helped make feel alittle easier going thru this crap..scared..but better...I thought my warrior days were over when I stopped shopping in alleys and boarded up houses...looks like I'm doing the same thing only there's chairs to wait in and the main guy now wears a suit instead of gold chains... Would like to wish everyone here success with this …had a long hard day in bed and all ur post helped make feel alittle easier going thru this crap..scared..but better…I thought my warrior days were over when I stopped shopping in alleys and boarded up houses…looks like I’m doing the same thing only there’s chairs to wait in and the main guy now wears a suit instead of gold chains…

]]> By: claudia http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45602 claudia Fri, 18 May 2012 09:29:22 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45602 N thank u subuser7..i called my doc and he refuses to put me back on...already filled my spot..whatever that means..so i' m taking ur advice and called another doc supplier and seeing him 2morrow at a nice new hefty price...i was a junkie for 12years and finally cut the s* it myself and had 6 clean years...i slipped and someone told me to take suboxin and i wouldn't slip again...now i'm 5 years into a dark nitemare...i'm so sad and so awake its now at 4am N thank u subuser7..i called my doc and he refuses to put me back on…already filled my spot..whatever that means..so i’ m taking ur advice and called another doc supplier and seeing him 2morrow at a nice new hefty price…i was a junkie for 12years and finally cut the s* it myself and had 6 clean years…i slipped and someone told me to take suboxin and i wouldn’t slip again…now i’m 5 years into a dark nitemare…i’m so sad and so awake its now at 4am

]]> By: subuser7 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45594 subuser7 Fri, 18 May 2012 04:41:28 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45594 oops there were wds with it- I hate not having spell check oops there were wds with it- I hate not having spell check

]]> By: subuser7 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45593 subuser7 Fri, 18 May 2012 04:41:00 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45593 can you tell him you aren't ready after reading all the posts and need a set number of 2mg strips or something so you can taper over a set period of time? like 3 weeks to a month? I'm sorry I don't have any advice other than to talk to your doctor and ask for some more and put yourself through a set taper- maybe then you could taper to almost nothing over a couple weeks rather than jumping ship cold turkey- sorry but it is just another doc- not understanding what they are giving us- my doc never told me it was addicitive or their were wds with it! makes me mad! can you tell him you aren’t ready after reading all the posts and need a set number of 2mg strips or something so you can taper over a set period of time? like 3 weeks to a month? I’m sorry I don’t have any advice other than to talk to your doctor and ask for some more and put yourself through a set taper- maybe then you could taper to almost nothing over a couple weeks rather than jumping ship cold turkey- sorry but it is just another doc- not understanding what they are giving us- my doc never told me it was addicitive or their were wds with it! makes me mad!

]]> By: claudia http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45588 claudia Thu, 17 May 2012 23:09:25 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45588 Grammer fixes...don't know why word successful is there...doesn't seem like too much of a success rite now....also feel the withdrawals coming...been 30 hrs since last 1/2 mil. Dose....what should I expect... Grammer fixes…don’t know why word successful is there…doesn’t seem like too much of a success rite now….also feel the withdrawals coming…been 30 hrs since last 1/2 mil. Dose….what should I expect…

]]> By: claudia mcdermott http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45587 claudia mcdermott Thu, 17 May 2012 23:01:21 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45587 Thank u everyone for ur posts...today is my first day without any successful subxn in 5 years..I thought I was unique because I took 1.5 mil a day and my doctor told me its such a low dose he was cutting me off..I tried cutting back lower but my life is so busy I just couldn't..now reading the post I relize I'm going to struggle just like everyone else and the fear of not being able to perform my everyday business is making me panic..my doc gave me klonpin and told me it would make me feel normal...I already feel the we coming...unsure what to do???any good advice out there???? Thank u everyone for ur posts…today is my first day without any successful subxn in 5 years..I thought I was unique because I took 1.5 mil a day and my doctor told me its such a low dose he was cutting me off..I tried cutting back lower but my life is so busy I just couldn’t..now reading the post I relize I’m going to struggle just like everyone else and the fear of not being able to perform my everyday business is making me panic..my doc gave me klonpin and told me it would make me feel normal…I already feel the we coming…unsure what to do???any good advice out there????

]]> By: sub1570 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45583 sub1570 Thu, 17 May 2012 19:02:22 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45583 SavingSara. Congratulations, I am so happy to hear that you are closer to completing your taper than you originally thought. That is awesome news. Charting out your taper is an excellent plan. Good luck and congrats to you on soon turning 40 years young. Please keep us posted on your progress and I will do the same. Stay strong. Sub15 SavingSara. Congratulations, I am so happy to hear that you are closer to completing your taper than you originally thought. That is awesome news. Charting out your taper is an excellent plan. Good luck and congrats to you on soon turning 40 years young. Please keep us posted on your progress and I will do the same. Stay strong. Sub15

]]> By: sub1570 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45582 sub1570 Thu, 17 May 2012 18:49:24 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45582 Hi Alonzo, you bring up a very good point and something I have considered as well. Being at a low dose and having a certain level of awareness is still much better than taking 16mg or 8 mg a day. If I cannot taper completely before the baby comes, I would rather continue to taper slow as you suggest rather than risk all the progress I am making now. Also, congratulations Alonzo on your baby as well. That is awesome! It is interesting that our pasts are so similar. It is comforting some how to know there are others who's history is similar to mine. Congratulations again on the baby and on the successful taper so far!! I know you will complete it!! Lastly Alonzo, what is a liquid taper and how does it work? I am not familiar with it, but curious. Thanks! Hi Alonzo, you bring up a very good point and something I have considered as well. Being at a low dose and having a certain level of awareness is still much better than taking 16mg or 8 mg a day. If I cannot taper completely before the baby comes, I would rather continue to taper slow as you suggest rather than risk all the progress I am making now. Also, congratulations Alonzo on your baby as well. That is awesome! It is interesting that our pasts are so similar. It is comforting some how to know there are others who’s history is similar to mine. Congratulations again on the baby and on the successful taper so far!! I know you will complete it!! Lastly Alonzo, what is a liquid taper and how does it work? I am not familiar with it, but curious. Thanks!

]]> By: Alonzo http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45579 Alonzo Thu, 17 May 2012 17:05:43 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45579 Oops didn't finish my thought--I mean I may still be on another year with a slow taper, but being at low dosages I don't experience the nods I had at 14 so I plan on enjoying life with my baby. Oops didn’t finish my thought–I mean I may still be on another year with a slow taper, but being at low dosages I don’t experience the nods I had at 14 so I plan on enjoying life with my baby.

]]> By: Alonzo http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45578 Alonzo Thu, 17 May 2012 17:03:52 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45578 Sub 1570. My wife and I had our baby on 19-Mar-12. You and I have virtually the same history with full agonists and sub. I was on 14 a day then two years ago worked down to 8 a day, then in December worked down to 4 a day. There has been some ups in down in dosages, however since Sunday I dropped to 2.75 a day. My point in all this is that although I too wanted to be completely off for my baby, I'm dropping slowwwwww. . . . I mean I plan on droppin' in mcg's before I jump--liquid taper if I have to. Best Sub 1570. My wife and I had our baby on 19-Mar-12. You and I have virtually the same history with full agonists and sub. I was on 14 a day then two years ago worked down to 8 a day, then in December worked down to 4 a day. There has been some ups in down in dosages, however since Sunday I dropped to 2.75 a day. My point in all this is that although I too wanted to be completely off for my baby, I’m dropping slowwwwww. . . . I mean I plan on droppin’ in mcg’s before I jump–liquid taper if I have to.

Best

]]> By: SavingSara http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45569 SavingSara Thu, 17 May 2012 13:55:22 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45569 Hey-- I'm only 4 years older than sub15. I'm 39, still in my 30's.. Lol, just had to point that out. My goal is to hopefully jump before 40th (omg) b day. That's 22 weeks. Hey! U guys just gave me the idea & realazation that i need to chart out the rest of my taper. I didn't realize i was that close. Been up w,/ nothing yet but my morning SAM-e + vitamin B. Its hard Being on afternoon shift & doing this. Just because i dose before work, and later, 2 2mg, one at 2pm, other at 9pm. When I'm off, I'm up early which mixes up my schedule. Gotta move though. Not giving up. Hey– I’m only 4 years older than sub15. I’m 39, still in my 30′s.. Lol, just had to point that out. My goal is to hopefully jump before 40th (omg) b day. That’s 22 weeks. Hey! U guys just gave me the idea & realazation that i need to chart out the rest of my taper. I didn’t realize i was that close. Been up w,/ nothing yet but my morning SAM-e + vitamin B. Its hard Being on afternoon shift & doing this. Just because i dose before work, and later, 2 2mg, one at 2pm, other at 9pm. When I’m off, I’m up early which mixes up my schedule. Gotta move though. Not giving up.

]]> By: sub1570 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45558 sub1570 Thu, 17 May 2012 05:26:54 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45558 Thank you guys so much for all of your support and encouraging words!! I can't agree with you more SS on your points about the importance of planning, supplements and physical activity. I will also definitely google the recommended searches and of course keep you posted on my progress. It sounds like you and Sub7 are both in a very good place as well and just waiting to take the big leap. I totally understand and just remember, everyone at their own pace, everybody in their own time. Again, it took me 5 years and if I wasn't going to be a father, I might have been ok to hang on a while longer. Also again for what it's worth, I have completely turned my entire life around in the past few years and I owe a great deal of the success I have achieved to the stabilizing power of Suboxone. I read a great deal of negative posts about Suboxone, but personally I just can't hate on it because it has been a major factor in so many good things in my life. But, I owe a debt for that prison sentence being postponed all these years, and for me, it is time to pay it. I hope I don't have to pay too dearly. Thank you again so very much for your responses. I have never posted an internet comment before in my life on any topic, but I'll tell ya, it really does help to talk to you people. I can't thank you enough for your support. Stay strong. Thank you guys so much for all of your support and encouraging words!! I can’t agree with you more SS on your points about the importance of planning, supplements and physical activity. I will also definitely google the recommended searches and of course keep you posted on my progress. It sounds like you and Sub7 are both in a very good place as well and just waiting to take the big leap. I totally understand and just remember, everyone at their own pace, everybody in their own time. Again, it took me 5 years and if I wasn’t going to be a father, I might have been ok to hang on a while longer. Also again for what it’s worth, I have completely turned my entire life around in the past few years and I owe a great deal of the success I have achieved to the stabilizing power of Suboxone. I read a great deal of negative posts about Suboxone, but personally I just can’t hate on it because it has been a major factor in so many good things in my life. But, I owe a debt for that prison sentence being postponed all these years, and for me, it is time to pay it. I hope I don’t have to pay too dearly. Thank you again so very much for your responses. I have never posted an internet comment before in my life on any topic, but I’ll tell ya, it really does help to talk to you people. I can’t thank you enough for your support. Stay strong.

]]> By: SavingSara http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45552 SavingSara Thu, 17 May 2012 04:12:56 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45552 Sub 15. -- I feel sooooo much better knowing you are a man, meaning not PG!!! Phew.. Anyways, well first-- Congrats on your baby. You sound like u are in the right set of mind to do and BEAT THIS! Don't the subs get old? I'm at 3.5 years, down to 4mg a day (stuck) need to kick it in gear, here So-- you are in a pretty great yet scary situation. You sound ready, so a determine mind, plus planning, and knowing once you're a parent, its non stop for 18 + years! So-- id say, do it. Prepare your taper chart, even if u have to get a 28 (monthly) prescription box and lay/prep it out. Check out some sites about natural things to do/take that will help w withdraw and depression, lack of energy. I'm a true believe and know personally, a lot of this helps. A multi vitamin, super complex B, omega 3 (amino acid fish oil) are 3 main supplements that we really need. Diet - high protein, no red meat or sugars. I Found SAM-e helps me tremendously (400mg a day w/ vit b super). You can also google 5HTP & L tyrosine. These are the esstentials our minds need to rebuild serotonin. Walk, I ride a bike every morning before work, go to the gym Most and MOST-- TAPER RIGHT, drop 25% every 5-7 days. It sounds like your tsper is not that long, so remember u don't want to be in full blown WD when the baby is here. Plan, plan, plan. Also, google AMINO ACID THERAPY for addiction. It explains a lot! And don't read all the crazy stories on the web about HOW AWFUL IT IS. Remember, everyone is diff. I got off before, was very tired, not motivated, by 7 days, i was okay, on a roll. Little Did i know then, how i just got thru the hardest part, and cont w/ subs as soon as i got my next prescriotiin. Damit. That's why its so important to be educated on this, unlike me tears ago... You can do it! We will help u, be here, and u just may do OKAY, cause you have something, a true miracle to live for. Sub 15. — I feel sooooo much better knowing you are a man, meaning not PG!!! Phew.. Anyways, well first– Congrats on your baby. You sound like u are in the right set of mind to do and BEAT THIS! Don’t the subs get old? I’m at 3.5 years, down to 4mg a day (stuck) need to kick it in gear, here

So– you are in a pretty great yet scary situation. You sound ready, so a determine mind, plus planning, and knowing once you’re a parent, its non stop for 18 + years! So– id say, do it. Prepare your taper chart, even if u have to get a 28 (monthly) prescription box and lay/prep it out. Check out some sites about natural things to do/take that will help w withdraw and depression, lack of energy. I’m a true believe and know personally, a lot of this helps. A multi vitamin, super complex B, omega 3 (amino acid fish oil) are 3 main supplements that we really need. Diet – high protein, no red meat or sugars. I Found SAM-e helps me tremendously (400mg a day w/ vit b super). You can also google 5HTP & L tyrosine. These are the esstentials our minds need to rebuild serotonin. Walk, I ride a bike every morning before work, go to the gym

Most and MOST– TAPER RIGHT, drop 25% every 5-7 days. It sounds like your tsper is not that long, so remember u don’t want to be in full blown WD when the baby is here. Plan, plan, plan. Also, google AMINO ACID THERAPY for addiction. It explains a lot! And don’t read all the crazy stories on the web about HOW AWFUL IT IS. Remember, everyone is diff. I got off before, was very tired, not motivated, by 7 days, i was okay, on a roll. Little Did i know then, how i just got thru the hardest part, and cont w/ subs as soon as i got my next prescriotiin. Damit. That’s why its so important to be educated on this, unlike me tears ago…

You can do it! We will help u, be here, and u just may do OKAY, cause you have something, a true miracle to live for.

]]> By: subuser7 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45550 subuser7 Thu, 17 May 2012 02:59:39 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45550 Sub1570- good luck- seems like most of us here are "older" I would like to hit my 42nd bday clean and sober but I'm moving slow with the sub taper for two reasons- to be successful and I don't want a relapse..makes me nervous a little- I mean usually I don't think about pills at all but somtimes I catch myself dreaming about them - kinda crazy! i think 6 weeks is doable! good luck and keep us posted Sub1570- good luck- seems like most of us here are “older” I would like to hit my 42nd bday clean and sober but I’m moving slow with the sub taper for two reasons- to be successful and I don’t want a relapse..makes me nervous a little- I mean usually I don’t think about pills at all but somtimes I catch myself dreaming about them – kinda crazy! i think 6 weeks is doable! good luck and keep us posted

]]> By: sub1570 http://suboxonetaper.com/no-withdrawals-from-suboxone/comment-page-9/#comment-45537 sub1570 Wed, 16 May 2012 16:27:20 +0000 http://suboxonetaper.com/?page_id=126#comment-45537 Hi SavingSara. Thank you for the post and I'm so sorry for any confusion......... but I am a man. Hahaha!! My wife is pregnant and we are having our first child. The point of my post is the same, however. I want to fully experience this new and most important chapter of my life and on subs I don't truly "feel alive". Although subs have given me a life back, I want to start this part of my life truly clean and clear of mind. Last night I cut a few films in half and today I am transitioning to 4mg per day. As I stated, I have about 6 weeks to taper and I'm starting at 4mg per day. Of course I am fearful of the wd, but I am trying to stay focused on doing it for my kid. It's just that I have been on subs (and therefore haven't even felt or had to worry about a withdrawals) for 5 years and the thought of having to deal with it now after all these years is just the worst. And dealing with wd now in a 35 year old body is much different from dealing with it in a 25 year old body. Anyway, I'm just venting. Thanks for listening and for the response, I really appreciate it. I am gonna try and taper in 6 weeks, any advice or encouragement welcome. Thanks! Hi SavingSara. Thank you for the post and I’m so sorry for any confusion……… but I am a man. Hahaha!! My wife is pregnant and we are having our first child. The point of my post is the same, however. I want to fully experience this new and most important chapter of my life and on subs I don’t truly “feel alive”. Although subs have given me a life back, I want to start this part of my life truly clean and clear of mind.
Last night I cut a few films in half and today I am transitioning to 4mg per day. As I stated, I have about 6 weeks to taper and I’m starting at 4mg per day. Of course I am fearful of the wd, but I am trying to stay focused on doing it for my kid. It’s just that I have been on subs (and therefore haven’t even felt or had to worry about a withdrawals) for 5 years and the thought of having to deal with it now after all these years is just the worst. And dealing with wd now in a 35 year old body is much different from dealing with it in a 25 year old body. Anyway, I’m just venting. Thanks for listening and for the response, I really appreciate it. I am gonna try and taper in 6 weeks, any advice or encouragement welcome. Thanks!

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